波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!

波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!

波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!

Gregg Popovich explained how he made a mistake by trying to overcoach LaMarcus Aldridge.

波波维奇表示,自己之前一直试图过度执教(改变)阿尔德里奇其实是个错误。

波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!


“We broke bread a few times, talked about it, laughed about it, discussed what we thought needed to happen, and frankly 95 percent of it fell on me because I made an error in trying to change him too much. That might sound odd, but he’d been in the league nine years and there’s one way he plays on the offensive end and feels comfortable with. I tried to turn him into Jack Sikma, told him I was going to teach you how to play on the elbow, go on the wing, face up. It was confusing for him. It really didn’t fit his style of play. I was guilty of over coaching in a sense.“

“我和阿德吃了几次饭,谈了几次这个话题,气氛很融洽,我们也讨论了未来的的设想。确实,阿德之前打的不理想95%的责任都在我身上,因为我一直都在试图改变他,这也许听起来有点怪。但你要知道,阿尔德里奇是个在联盟中征战了九年的老将,在进攻端已经有了一套适合自己的舒适打法。但我想教他在肘区打球,去侧翼,面框,变成一个西格玛式的大范围活动中锋,让他以这种不合适的方式打球实在是困扰了他,我为自己原来一直执意去改变他而感到内疚。”

“We came to an agreement on what had to happen. Well, on defense, I told him ‘I’m going to get on you like I do everyone else. But on offense, I don’t even want to talk to you. When they double you, kick it. Other than that, you be LaMarcus Aldridge.’ You see the result right now. He’s happy, confident and kicking everybody’s butt.”

我们在打法上达成了共识。我告诉他,“在防守上,你必须像其他人一样听我的安排。但是在进攻上,我根本不需要去教你了,因为你是阿尔德里奇啊!尽管去打,就算他们包夹你,教训他们!”你们现在也看到结果了,阿尔德里奇现在非常高兴,自信,打爆了所有人。

“When guys like Kawhi and Tony Parker and others came to me, they were young kids. When a guy’s been in a league nine years and is used to doing something and I try to take it away, that’s not right. That wasn’t very wise on my part. You gotta look at things and make it better as a coach. It’s your responsibility. This was mostly me.”

与卡哇伊,帕克或者其他从开始就跟着我的球员不同,这次来的是个在联盟中打拼九年,已经有一套固定打法的老将,去试图让他改变打法是不对的,这就是我不明智的地方。作为一个教练,我有发现问题并及时改正的责任,这次都怪我。

波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!

[–]JazzCICERO9K 2133 指標 10小時前

Props to Pop for expressing this publicly

向波波维奇公开承认错误致敬!

[–]Raptorsparanoidandromeda1 20 指標 9小時前

It goes to show you that you can still make mistakes with decades of coaching experience under your belt.

这就说明了,就算一位教练有几十年的经验,他依然有可能犯错误。

[–]Bucksverily_quite_indeed 7 指標 9小時前

To see a man of his stature be so humble is inspiring.

江湖地位这么高的波波如此谦逊,这真的很鼓舞人心啊。

 [–][NYK] Charlie WardSef_Maul 7399 指標 10小時前

And this is why Pop is the GOAT coach. Takes a big man to admit they"re wrong.

这就是为什么波波是历史最佳教练。必须要给能承认自己错误的人点赞!

[–]Wizardsthelastestofus 2510 指標 9小時前

Especially when you"re a man who has been dominant in the league for 2 consecutive decades... pretty astounding

尤其是波波维奇这种已经连续统治NBA近20年的人物,太不可思议了!

[–]Lakersarkhitekton 1252 指標 9小時前*

Though truthfully this is probably why he"s been dominant for 2 decades. It"s sort of akin to how Phil just tends to let players be, instead of trying too hard to reshape them. On the flip side, I never really saw Phil develop talent from the bottom.

这可能正是波波维奇能够统治联盟20年的原因。与其努力改造球员,不如让他们以习惯的方式打球,波波维奇这样做有几分像菲尔-杰克逊。不过另一方面,我还没发现菲尔-杰克逊能像波波维奇那样从头培养一个球星。

波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!

[–]Rocketsdepressiown 75 指標 7小時前

I mean, this is really a universal truth in life. If you can"t admit fault, you can"t improve, grow, adapt, or get better at anything you do. Pop hasn"t always been the best coach, but because he was able to see things he does wrong and improve from it, he became the best coach.

我想这是生活中的普遍真理。如果你不能直面自己的错误,你就不能提高,成长,不能去适应去做好任何事。波波维奇并不是一开始就是最佳教练,正因为他能看到自己的错误并从中吸取教训不断成长,才成为了最佳教练。

This is true in everything. If LeBron didn"t think anything was wrong with his shooting from when he came into the league, he wouldn"t be shooting 41.7% from 3. If Jose Altuve didn"t improve his swing after he won a batting title, he wouldn"t be MVP. If I didn"t improve my code design from when I was a junior developer, I wouldn"t be a lead now.

这适用于所有事。如果刚进联盟时,勒布朗无视自己差劲的投射,那他的三分命中率现在也不能达到41.7%。如果艾图维没有在获得击球冠军后去继续提高他的挥棒技巧,那他就也不会获得职业棒球联盟的MVP。如果当我是初级程序员时没有想法去提高自己的编码能力,那我现在也不会成为主管。

Far, far, far too many people don"t understand that they make mistakes. That they could improve something about themselves. It should be a common trait to have this sort of introspection, but so many don"t and get stuck where they are. The fact that people are astounded Pop feels this way sort of proves that in an indirect fashion: it"s inconceivable to them that someone at the top of their profession actually has faults.

太太太多人不明白自己会犯错,也不明白他们是有提高空间的。其实,这样的反省应该成为一个日常习惯,但太多人不能反省自身,从而停滞不前。人们震惊于波波维奇此举恰恰间接的说明了一件事:人们根本就不相信处于行业顶端的人也会犯错误。

波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!

[–]NBAWhiteness88 500 指標 9小時前

This is true and it"s something that continuously gets brought up when bringing up Phil"s legacy. However, there is something to be said about being able to reach guys that have superegos and make them buy into your system. While I don"t think Phil would"ve been able to develop players like Pop did, I"m not sure Pop would"ve been able to reach players like Jordan and Kobe due to his way of coaching. Stars don"t like getting called out in front of the team.

确实如此。在讨论禅师的传奇生涯时,(波波和禅师在执教风格上的不同)总是会被提起。然而,禅师能帮助自尊或自负心超强的巨星潜力最大化,并令他们能自愿地融入到自己的执教体系中来,这一点确实不可小视啊。虽然说我也不认为禅师能像波波那样挖掘并培养草根球员,但是我同样不敢说波波能和乔丹、科比这样的球员合作融洽。要知道,超级球星是不乐意被拉出来当众挨训的。

[–][GSW] Draymond GreenMacDerfus 486 指標 8小時前

Kawhi was shaped into a star, Tim had a coachable personality to go with his talents, and Robinson had a military background which made him good at following orders.

是啊,卡哇伊是球星胚子,波波也成功地将他塑造成了一个巨星。邓肯不光有无与伦比的天赋,还是特别容易执教的那种球员。而大卫-罗宾逊曾在军队服役过,这段经历塑造了他善于服从指令的个性。

[–]Bucksmastersergeant98 205 指標 8小時前

Yeah Pop chooses guys based on merit and their attitudes but it could be said that Pop worked with these guys when they were young. Who knows maybe if he coached Jordan early on it might be different but that"s speculation.

波波维奇挑选球员的标准不光有他们本身的能力,还有(打球和做人的)态度。但是,这些球员也是很年轻的时候就已经跟波波合作了。天知道乔丹刚出道时如果在波波维奇手底下会怎么样,也许会有不同,但我们只能推测。

[–]Celticsarmyprick 52 指標 9小時前

Red Auerbach was the same way. Wilt always said he wished he had a coach who treated him with as much dignity and respect the way Red did with Russell. Red famously rolled up his playbook pages when he got upset and pointed them in condemnation of refs and focused on abusing them, while letting the players play freely.

红衣主教奥尔巴赫也是这样的教练。张伯伦经常说他希望能够有个对他有更多尊重的教练,就像红衣主教对待拉塞尔那样。红衣主教的知名动作就是在心烦的时候卷起战术手册,指着裁判一直骂,给他们施压,而对待球员则让他们按自己的方式比赛。

[–]Trail BlazersPDXbp 44 指標 8小時前

He is the GOAT, but there"s one more big difference I think he"s overlooking - at least in these statements. This year LMA is #1 banana, what happens when Kawhi gets back? In portland he"d worked his way to dominating as #1 banana til Dame showed up to share the spotlight. It might be that he has to be the first option to stay effective/motivated - regardless of how he"s coached. But I guess time will tell.

我也承认波波维奇是最佳教练,但我觉得波波忽略了一个不同点,或者说,至少从波波的这几段话中我发现波波忽略了一个事实:现在阿尔德里奇打得很好,那卡哇伊回来后怎么办?原来在开拓者时,利拉德崛起之前,阿尔德里奇都是习惯于球队老大的打法。这可能表明,不管怎么教,如果想让阿尔德里奇保持高效和动力,必须让他成为球队的第一选择。我想时间会给我答案。

波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!

[–]Spurssiphillis 142 指標 9小時前

Meanwhile, Phil Jackson might trade you for skipping an exit meeting.

作为对比,禅师还可能会因为你缺席赛季总结会而交易你。[译注1]

[译注1]:2017年4月,禅师指责波尔津吉斯缺席会议,想要交易他。

[–]LakersILoveLamp9 200 指標 8小時前

Maybe it"s because of the age demographic here, but how in the world do you guys talk down about PJ"s coaching legacy? He is arguably the GOAT, even with whatever flaws you may present. It"s debatable, but only because people like Pop, Auerbach, and Riley exist. And even with all of those three, the variety of personnel Phil had to manage was incomparable to the other three. I"m not even talking about his accolades either, that alone probably props him to the top as #1. Phil introduced a style of coaching ("mind over matter" approach) that was not present before and still to this day is unmatched.

And this is coming from a guy who is a big fan of Pop and OG Riley.

湖人球迷:是论坛球迷太年轻没看过球还是我禅师提不动刀了?你们怎么敢贬低禅师的教练生涯?就算你们举出禅师的再多缺点,他也是历史第一教练的有力竞争者。之所以这个名号目前还没有盖棺定论是因为波波维奇、红衣主教和莱利这些教练的存在。说到管理各种不同类型的球星,他们三个加起来拍马也赶不上。而且我在这里也不想拿禅师的荣誉当论据,因为光禅师的荣誉这一项就足够推他上历史第一教练的王座了。禅师开辟了心灵导师类型教练的先河,别说以前没有,时至今日也没有教练熬的鸡汤更好喝。

别觉得我偏向,我可是波波维奇和教父莱利的铁粉。

[–]Spurssiphillis 93 指標 8小時前*

The longstanding argument is that Jackson had an unrivaled ability to confide in his players, and temper egos. Perhaps it was old age, but his tenure as the Knicks GM suggests he actually has trouble dealing with difficult personalities, in addition to demonstrating very little concept of how the game has evolved.

I"ve always admired Phil"s emotional intelligence, and how he was able to get a collection of alpha dogs to buy into a team-oriented offense, but diving deep into how those teams actually functioned, how much he leaned on assistants like Tex Winter, and how stubborn and egotistical he is, I"ve begun to wane on Jackson, and place him below Red, Riley, Pop, and even Brown.

马刺球迷:支持禅师为历史第一教练的无可反驳的论据就是他有着无与伦比的能力去与他的球员交流谈心,掌控他们的情绪。不过不管是不是年龄大了脑子糊涂了吧,禅师在尼克斯干总经理的这两年表明他跟一些刺头打交道其实也有困难,更别提他这几年根本就对NBA的发展演变没有什么概念。

我原来一向欣赏禅师的情商,我也很欣赏他能让一群自尊心极强的老大型球员对团队主导的进攻体系买账。但随着我逐渐深入了解公牛和湖人的球队实际运转情况、禅师向泰克斯-温特这类助教的借鉴和学习、禅师的顽固和自负,我就没那么神化禅师了,他现在在我心中的地位不如奥尔巴赫,不如波波,不如莱利甚至布朗。

波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!

[–][NYK] Kristaps PorzingisMyLadySansa 461 指標 10小時前

I love Pop so damn much

我太TM爱波波维奇了。

[–]SpursbLouGoo 72 指標 8小時前

Greg Popovich can make love to my mother

马刺球迷:波波可以日我妈!

[–][SAS] Marco BelinelliChiliConChaos 3804 指標 10小時前

Dear Pop,

Pls be my dad

Love,

ChiliConChaos

ID为ChiliConChaos的马刺球迷:亲爱的波波,

请当我的爸爸吧,

你亲爱的ChiliConChaos。

[–]NBAkukukele 1356 指標 10小時前

What if Pop says:

You"ve been ChiliConChaos for 20+ years. I can"t change you. Your flaws are your flaws...

楼上的,如果波波这么说的话怎么办:

“你已经当了ChiliConChaos20多年了,我不能去试图改变你,狗改不了吃屎。”

[–][SAS] Marco BelinelliChiliConChaos 724 指標 9小時

I would probably end it

ChiliConChaos:我可能会去死吧。

[–]Bullsjkure2 185 指標 9小時前

You would put your death on the conscience of Pop? Tha fuck man...that man is a treasure! Dude wouldn"t be able to live with himself

难道你想以死相逼,让波波感到于心不忍吗?怎么个几把回事?波波可是国家宝藏啊!他以后还怎么带着这个阴影活下去!

[–]Celticsarmyprick 94 指標 9小時前

I can"t live with disappointing him though. Disappointing Pop is a fate worse than death.

但是如果我让波波失望了,那我还不如去死好了!

[–]RaptorsShady9XD 195 指標 9小時前

I would like to formally apply to be adopted.

我想正式地申请成为波波的养子!

[–]SpursAccelerationGate 78 指標 9小時前

Get in line.

马刺球迷:哥屁股后面排队去。

波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!

[–]Hawksjumboponcho 185 指標 9小時前

Pop could"ve easily thrown Aldridge under the bus and everyone would"ve believed him because of his pedigree, but he admitted he was wrong and made the adjustment.

说真的,波波本可以怪罪阿德,大家也不会不相信波波,因为他的江湖地位摆在那呢。可是相反地,他承认了自己的错误,并相应做出了调整。

[–]Timberwolvescimeryd 83 指標 7小時前

And in return he has a happy star on his team. It"s a win in every way.

作为回报,阿德能继续快乐地在马刺打球了。怎么看都是一场胜利啊。

[–]Spurssnarkyturtle 62 指標 6小時前

A happy star who isn"t on a contract year and yet is still balling the fuck out.

马刺球迷:阿德现在不光是能快乐打球的球星,而且还是处在非合同年但依然大杀特杀的球星!

[–][MIA] Rodney McGruderjoshrichardsonsson 699 指標 10小時前

I hate liking the Spurs.

热火球迷:我讨厌喜欢马刺的感觉!

[–][HOU] Rafer Alstonapplause_5 205 指標 9小時前

I hate that I can’t root for them.

火箭球迷:我讨厌自己(因主队原因)不能支持他们。

[–]GrizzliesWorkDr 90 指標 8小時前

Right there with ya...too many playoffs matchups

灰熊球迷:同感,跟狗刺在季后赛遇见过太多次啦。

波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!

[–]ManuBlockedJimSoften 753 指標 10小時前

I have a big smile on my face reading that

I live Pop and this team

马刺球迷:读到波波的这段话我真的忍不住微笑。

我爱波波,也爱狗刺。

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrookdamifromtheblock 94 指標 9小時前

Damn I just became a Spurs fan

雷霆球迷:卧槽,看了这个帖子我成了马刺球迷了。

[–]LakersLiquorpuki 140 指標 9小時前

Best coach in the NBA

湖人球迷:NBA最佳教练当之无愧。

[–]Cavaliers123456Switcher 126 指標 9小時前

Probably in all of sports right now.

不光是NBA,所有运动都算上,波波仍然可能是现役的最佳教练。

[–]Raptorsfabrar 81 指標 9小時前

That"s why Pop is the GOAT. He knows when to back off and let his star players do their thing. Realized he made a mistake trying to change LMA, one of the best offensive bigs in the league, too much, adapted and brought out the best in him after some growing pains.

Also takes a big man to admit to his faults, especially with an insane track record and reputation that he has.

这就是波波维奇是历史最佳教练的原因。他知道什么时候要做出让步,让自己的球星放开手脚发挥。阿尔德里奇作为联盟中进攻最好的大个子之一,波波维奇却一直尝试让他做出大量改变,在阵痛期后,波波维奇意识到了这个错误,适时修正并发挥了阿尔德里奇最大的能力。

同时,承认错误永远需要勇气,尤其是波波这么一个有着辉煌的纪录和偌大名声的教练(随之可能而来的自负心会使一个人很难承认错误)。

波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!


波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!

波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!

波波维奇承认错误改造阿德并即时改正,谦逊如此不愧为伟大教练!