公牛并不是超级球队，只是乔丹力挽狂澜运气超好，但勇士运气更好萧华回应乔丹超级球队言论：“我笑了一

公牛并不是超级球队，只是乔丹力挽狂澜运气超好，但勇士运气更好

萧华回应乔丹超级球队言论：“我笑了一会儿，因为这个想法出于也许是运动史上最具好胜心的运动员，他的球队在新赛季夺冠无望让他有点儿沮丧。所以我对他的话持保留态度。”

Silver on MJ"s "super team" comment: "I chuckled a little because this notion that maybe the most competitive athlete in the history all of sports is frustrated because his team isn"t predicted to win the championship this year. So I take it with a bit of a grain of salt. "

[–]dude5million 20 指標 15小時前

i missed what mj said in the first place, someone link me please?

我没看到MJ一开始说了啥，谁给我个链接看看？

[–]ThatGamer707 41 指標 14小時前

He is saying what everyone is saying. This will be another predictable season where GSW will be the champs and it is obvious to everyone.

其实他就是说了人们老生常谈的事儿。这赛季基本可以预见冠军还是勇士，而且这对每个人来说都显而易见。

[–]Wizards Bandwagonlivefreeordont 13 指標 12小時前

To be fair to MJ it makes the regular season slightly less exciting as well. It will basically come down to who gets the 4 seed between Spurs, Thunder, and Rockets. And even then all it means is you face the Warriors sooner rather than later. You’re gonna lose either way

MJ说的是实话，这也让常规赛少了点乐趣。唯一的看点就成了马刺、雷霆、火箭谁排在西部第四。排在西部第四就意味着你会更早地在第二轮就碰到勇士，也就意味着你会更早被淘汰。

[–]RaptorsRZAAMRIINF 13 指標 20小時前

The problem here is that MJ"s Bulls were a super team too. NBA has barely been competitive and in most years which we have had 2-3 teams far a head of others.

问题是MJ的公牛也是超级球队啊。NBA从没那么的有竞争性，从来都是2-3支球队遥遥领先。

[–]CavaliersHoser117 50 指標 19小時前

This is completely wrong. The Bulls were pushed to game 7 four different times and every finals went to game 6 except for one. That"s why the MJ heroics were so incredible. He consistently kept doing it to save the team. Not every single time, there were a few other guys that hit some of those big shots or had big games, but in general he was always murdering people in high pressure situations.

To act like the NBA wasn"t very competitive with the Bulls is wrong. They were, MJ was just too good and just lucky enough to never get beat.

这完全是错的。那只公牛4次被逼入抢七，而且只有一次总决赛没打入第六场。因此MJ的事迹才这么有英雄色彩。他一直都扮演着拯救球队的角色。当然也不是每一次，也有一些其他人会命中关键球或者打一场好球，但通常都是MJ在巨大压力下撕碎敌人。

说NBA其他球队对那支公牛没威胁是扯淡的。那时的NBA还是很有竞争性的，只不过乔丹太强、运气也太好，一直没被击败。

[–]KingsBoxcar-Mike 9 指標 18小時前

people forget how close the Jazz came when Pippen was playing poorly and MJ had to will the wins.

人们都忘了当皮蓬低迷，爵士又来势汹汹的时候MJ是怎么靠坚强的意志力赢下那些比赛的。

[–]Spursmadhare09 1027 指標 15小時前

What? I think MJ doesn"t think that the only thing standing in Charlotte"s way is the Warriors/Cavs

啊？我觉得MJ应该不会认为他的黄蜂夺冠的障碍只有勇士和骑士吧。

[–]Nuggetsslayercage 450 指標 14小時前

Yeah silver is a dumbass

萧华就是个傻X。

[–]RocketsHyperactivity786 564 指標 14小時前

Or he"s trying to dodge the question. But yeah, no, he definitely believes this...

或者萧华可能是在回避这个问题。但是，嗯，就按湿乎乎的舆论来吧，他就是个傻X，相信乔丹因为自己的球队夺不了冠而沮丧。

[–]Nuggetsslayercage 104 指標 14小時前

You can dodge a question without saying dumb shit

你不瞎BB也能回避问题。

[–]RaptorsTOPLVL 58 指標 14小時前

whats "dumb" about what he said?? lol - MJ IS maybe the most competitive athlete in the history of all sports and his team ISN"T predicted to win the championship this year... sounds spot on correct to me lol

他瞎BB什么了？？？哈哈哈——“MJ也许是运动史上最具好胜心的运动员”、“他的球队在这赛季夺冠无望”……我听着没毛病啊哈哈哈哈。

[–]Trail BlazersAUBRY_WAS_ROBBED 76 指標 14小時前

It"s definitely a way to deflect from the fact that there are two super teams.

萧华绝对是为了扭曲联盟有两支超级球队这个事实。

[–]Rocketsln3012 8 指標 12小時前

two super teams? i think it"s a stretch to call the Cavs a super team. if you take LeBron off that squad do they make it past the 1st round of the playoffs?

两支超级球队？我觉得称骑士是超级球队绝对言过其实。如果你把詹姆斯去掉你觉得他们在季后赛能过第一轮吗？

[–]Raptorsahobbledehoy 12 指標 11小時前

What are you saying man, lebron in the east IS the superteam

你说啥呢哥们，詹姆斯这个名字在东部就意味着超级球队。

[–]KnicksAzarashi112 44 指標 14小時前

I mean it"s most likely Warriors vs Cavs, but OKC, Spurs,Rockets and Celtics do have some chance this year. Especially Rockets if their shots fall.

我觉得总决赛多半是勇士vs骑士，不过雷霆、马刺、火箭和凯尔特人今年也都有一点点机会。尤其是火箭，万一他们的球都能投进呢？

[–]willyd129 19 指標 17小時前

The NBA has always been dominated by 2-3 teams. He isn"t deflecting away from anything. This notion that something new is going on is ridiculous.

NBA永远都是被2-3支球队统治的。萧华可没扭曲任何事实。这种有什么新鲜事物在发展的想法可是太荒谬了。

[–]WestJreynold 27 指標 17小時前

Remember a few years ago when it seemed like we were in for an era of Miami vs. Spurs/OKC playoffs? It"s pretty cool how quickly that shifted. I think that"s what"s most important: can teams change their fate quickly?

Are great teams able to make the jump into contenders in a couple years? I think the steady ascendance of OKC, Houston and Boston shows that they can.

Are hopeless teams able to pivot quickly and gather some blue chippers? I think how quickly Milwaukee went from relying on Brandon Jennings to relying on Giannis is a good sign.

记不记得几年前我们还处在一个季后赛热火的对手不是马刺就是雷霆的时代？时光易逝啊。我觉得这才是最重要的：球队能那么快的改变自己的命运吗？

在两年前，优秀的队伍能一跃成为冠军争夺者吗？我觉得雷霆、火箭、凯尔特人所处的稳定地位表明了他们可以。

毫无希望的球队能迅速振作，并收集一些才华横溢的年轻人吗？我觉得雄鹿那么快从围绕布兰登-詹宁斯建队，转变到围绕字母哥建队就是个很好的信号。

[–]lavta 64 指標 13小時前

Let"s be real. 2015-2018 will probably mirror 1985-1988 with GSW being Lakers and Cavs being Celtics + "88 Pistons. It will probably look like GSW rings in 15, 17, 18, Lakers in 85, 87, 88 and Celtics in 86 with Cavs in 16. And in those years Bucks, Rockets, Pistons, Philly, Hawks were in those positions too, really really good teams. But Lakers and Celtics had just too much talent and depth until injuries derailed Celtics and gave Pistons the East for 3 years of a reign.

不吹不黑。2015-2018这三年就是1985-1988的翻版，勇士就像湖人而骑士像当时的凯尔特人+88年的活塞。勇士2015、17、18夺冠类比湖人的1985、87、88，凯尔特人1986年夺冠类比骑士的2016。而那几年里雄鹿、火箭、活塞、76人、老鹰群雄并起，都是很棒的球队。只不过凯尔特人和湖人有着太多的天赋和阵容深度。直到凯尔特人遭遇伤病，这才给了活塞连续三年统治东部的机会。

[–]BullsLEGOF 259 指標 14小時前

While his jab at MJ is somewhat true, that doesn"t disprove or counter the fact that we have super teams this year. He just avoided the question and attacked probably the most influential figure in NBA history.

好吧我承认萧华对MJ的这次暴击有几分道理，然而这并不能反驳超级球队存在的事实。萧华只是逃避了这个问题，然后又攻击了可能是NBA史上最具影响力的标志性人物。

[–]sketchbrah 8 指標 12小時前

Tbh is there really anything to argue? Whos more influential to the nba than jordan?

说实话这有什么可辩驳的？还有谁比乔丹在NBA的影响力大？

[–]IAmADopelyLitSavage 74 指標 13小時前

Remember last finals when one of the espn women interviewed him and asked him about the lack of parity and he said it"s great for the NBA and the NBA is better than ever?

Silver is a weasel who is never gonna tell the truth about league criticism. Parity? Officiating? Doesn"t care, everything in the NBA right now is the best it"s ever been

还记得上赛季总决赛的时候吗？ESPN女记者采访萧华，问他如何看待联盟天赋不均。然后他说这对NBA有好处，还说这是迄今为止最好的时代。

萧华对待联盟的矛盾争端从来都是和稀泥、不说实话。平均？公正？不存在的，NBA中的全部都是“迄今为止最好的”。

[–]Celticsbleachbloodable 21 指標 11小時前

I mean... I haven"t seen this many people hyped for the NBA season in a while though.

不过，今年球迷对新赛季的期待值确实是创了很长时间以来的新高了。

[–]HeatFerbtastic 28 指標 11小時前

As a fan of a team that has 0% chance of winning it all, I still find the NBA landscape fascinating. We are one injury to KD/curry away from 3-4 teams having a real shot at the title.

热火球迷：作为一支没有一点机会夺冠的球队的球迷，我仍觉得NBA还是很迷人的。要是勇士的库里或者杜兰特出现了伤病，NBA就会出现三四支很有希望夺冠的球队。

[–]TimberwolvesMorezingis 188 指標 15小時前

Damn, that"s kind of ... passive aggressive... towards the man whose brand built the NBA empire into what it is today.

It"s 100% true. We all know the Warriors are a lock, even with the super team changes. Its five times worse than Lebron"s Heat. We knew they were a lock for the finals, but there were teams in the west that could challenge them.

卧槽……这真的有点……阴阳怪气不有话直说……而且萧华在这里抨击的可是那个依靠个人品牌力量使NBA走向巅峰的传奇啊。

毫无疑问的。我们都知道就算超级强队变来变去，勇士地位也是不可撼动的。这比詹姆斯的热火时代还要糟糕五倍。当时的热火板上钉钉进总决赛，但西部还是有球队可以挑战他们权威的。

[–]RaptorsO-G-Anunoby 138 指標 15小時前

how is this passive aggressive?

怎么个阴阳怪气不有话直说了？

[–]Warriorsthrowbacklyrics 316 指標 15小時前

It"s not. People misuse the term all the time. It"s pretty confrontational and direct, so it"s not passive aggressive.

根本没有。每次人们都滥用这个词。萧华的话既直白又有对抗性，所以根本谈不上什么阴阳怪气不有话直说。

[–]RaptorsO-G-Anunoby 118 指標 15小時前

exactly. He straight up said the most competitive athlete ever in MJ is mad his team isn"t good enough to win. There"s nothing passive there.

真的是。他很直白地表明了“最具好胜心的运动员——乔丹，因为他的球队无法夺冠而生气。”这根本不是什么拐弯抹角的抨击。

[–]frugalNOTcheap 17 指標 19小時前

They were not a lock for the Finals. Even in their last year they were expected to be faced with a serious challenge from Indiana and Brooklyn. I know once the playoffs came in 2014 the Heat turned it up and ran right through the East but it was not the lock we remember it as.

那支热火可不是稳进总决。就在三巨头热火的最后一年都还有人期待看他们面对步行者和篮网带来的严峻挑战。2014年一进入季后赛热火就势如破竹并且在东部一骑绝尘，但他们真没我们想的那么稳。

[–]Bulls BandwagonRedHotDumpsterFire 91 指標 12小時前

The Warriors-Cavs Finals series have been the highest rated since the Bulls dynasty.

然而勇士vs骑士的总决赛得到了自公牛王朝以来最高的收视率。

[–]Spurspurpl3hazze 86 指標 12小時前

The cap also went down because of teams losing money by getting swept every round by warriors and Cavs. Highest ratings in the finals isn"t everything

可是工资帽的涨幅也下跌了，这是由于一些球队因为总被骑士和勇士横扫而亏钱。收视率最高不代表全部。

[–]Spursnoj776 63 指標 11小時前

My god it blows my mind how every little thing goes in the Warriors favor. Cap extension the year Durant is a free agent. Cap goes down the next year which makes it just a bit harder for any other team to add other superstars like the Warriors did. Its infuriating.

NOTE: I do NOT believe theres a conspiracy or anything like that. I don"t believe that the NBA is actively trying to make it a one team league, but the Warriors and their insane luck has been a running theme for the past few seasons. Either the Leprachaun from Luck of the Irish is in the FO, or Steph Curry and/or Draymond Green sold their souls to the devil in 2014. I would not be surprised with either.

我的天这简直颠覆我的认知，所有小事儿都促成了勇士的成功。杜兰特成为自由球员那年工资帽上涨，而下一年涨幅就下降，这让其他球队就不太容易像勇士那样补充超级巨星了。这太气人了。

注：我真不是觉得这之中有阴谋或者什么别的。我也不相信NBA想变成一支球队的联盟。但勇士和他们惊人的运气一直是过去几个赛季活跃的话题。要么是爱尔兰的幸运精灵化身勇士的管理层，要么是库里或格林在2014年将灵魂出卖给了恶魔。哪个是真的我都不奇怪。

[–][BOS] Mark BlountWarcraftFarscape 43 指標 10小時前

Every little thing goes in the warriors favor ".

They were bad for a LONG time. It isn"t like the Lakers acquired Durant. Golden state has had like 6 successful seasons in 40 years. They were basically the clippers for the longest time.

老哥你要知道他们烂了很长一段时间了。这不像是湖人去追求杜兰特。勇士建队40年里貌似就打了6个赛季的好球。他们长时间里都扮演着快船的角色。

[–]idk_tho 78 指標 14小時前

Jeeze this came out of the commissioners mouth? We"re fucked.

天啊这些话是从NBA总裁嘴里说出来的？我们完蛋了。

[–][MIA] Wang ZhizhiDopeMan93 482 指標 15小時前

Silver is really trying to turn heel[译注1]

萧华真的是努力在黑化啊……

[译注1]：heel turn 一词出自职业摔角。

[–][SAS] Manu GinobiliMalemansam 164 指標 15小時前

They can"t let him get away with this!

不能就这么放过他！