最佳新秀阵容出炉,美国球迷:可能是有史以来真有深度的一届新秀
NBA最佳新秀阵容公布
一阵:本-西蒙斯、多诺万-米切尔、杰森-塔特姆、凯尔-库兹马、劳里-马尔卡宁。
二阵:丹尼斯-史密斯、朗佐-鲍尔、约翰-科林斯、波格丹-波格丹诺维奇、约什-杰克逊。
[Charania] NBA All-Rookie teams: First team: Ben Simmons, Donovan Mitchell, Jayson Tatum, Kyle Kuzma, Lauri Markkanen. Second team: Dennis Smith Jr., Lonzo Ball, John Collins, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Josh Jackson.
Full Voting Results 完整投票结果
2017-18 All-Rookie First Team 2017-18 最佳新秀一阵
球员所在球队 一阵选票(计2分) 二阵选票(计1分) 总分 多诺万-米切尔 犹他爵士队 100 —— 200 本-西蒙斯 费城76人队 100 ——200 杰森-塔特姆 波士顿凯尔特人队 991 199 凯尔-库兹马 洛杉矶湖人队 937 193 劳里-马尔卡宁 芝加哥公牛队 7621 173
All-Rookie Second Team 最佳新秀二阵
球员所在球队 一阵选票(计2分) 二阵选票(计1分) 总分 丹尼斯-史密斯 达拉斯独行侠队 9 7896 朗佐-鲍尔 洛杉矶湖人队 7 7387 约翰-科林斯 亚特兰大老鹰队 5 6676 波格丹-波格丹诺维奇 萨拉门托国王队 6 6375 约什-杰克逊 菲尼克斯太阳队 1 4345
Other players receiving votes, with point totals (NBA All-Rookie First Team votes in parentheses):
Bam Adebayo, Miami ,44; De"Aaron Fox, Sacramento, 34; OG Anunoby, Toronto, 25 (2); Jarrett Allen, Brooklyn, 18; Dillon Brooks, Memphis, 14 (1); Jordan Bell, Golden State, 5; Royce O"Neale, Utah, 4; Zach Collins, Portland, 3; Milos Teodosic, LA Clippers, 3 (1); Luke Kennard, Detroit, 1; Frank Mason III, Sacramento, 1; Malik Monk, Charlotte, 1; Frank Ntilikina, New York, 1; Semi Ojeleye, Boston, 1; Sindarius Thornwell, LA Clippers, 1
其他收到选票的球员及他们的总分(括号内是他们得到的NBA最佳新秀一阵选票数):
巴姆-阿德巴约,迈阿密热火队,44分;达龙-福克斯,萨拉门托国王队,34分;OG-阿奴诺比,多伦多猛龙队,25分(2);贾莱特-阿伦,布鲁克林篮网队,18分;狄龙-布鲁克斯,孟菲斯灰熊队,14分(1);乔丹-贝尔,金州勇士队,5分;罗伊斯-奥尼尔,犹他爵士队,4分;扎克-科林斯,波特兰开拓者队,3分;米洛什-特奥多西奇,洛杉矶快船队,3分(1);卢克-肯纳德,底特律活塞队,1分;弗兰克-梅森,萨拉门托国王队,1分;马利克-蒙克,夏洛特黄蜂队,1分;弗朗克-尼利基纳,纽约尼克斯,1分;谢米-奥杰莱,波士顿凯尔特人,1分;辛达里厄斯-桑韦尔,洛杉矶快船队,1分。
[–]Bullstomatosauce1 258 指標 5小時前
who tf voted tatum for 2nd team
公牛球迷:谁特么投的塔特姆二阵。
[–]76erswsbull_35 63 指標 5小時前
I know he"s pretty much unanimous, but who"s the one person that didn"t vote Tatum first team? I don"t see how anyone can say there"s 5 rookies ahead of him. Two or three, sure. More than that though? C"mon man.
76人球迷:我知道塔特姆基本上也算是全票入选了,但是哪位老伙计不开眼没投他进一阵啊?我不觉得有人能举出来5个排在他前面的新秀。两个或者三个可能确实没毛病,但是比那还多?可拉倒吧。
[–]Cavaliersvoyaging 102 指標 2小時前
Probably the same person who voted Jackson first team lmao.
骑士球迷:可能是投约什-杰克逊进一阵的那哥们吧哈哈哈哈。
[–]Sunsscooper1030 405 指標 6小時前
LET"S FUCKING GO JOSH
Amazing turnaround from being one of the worst rookies in his class in November/December to performing like one of the best post ASB.
太阳球迷:约什-杰克逊!!!老铁们小汽车火箭走一波66666。
11、12月还是最差新秀之一,结果全明星后打出了这届新秀最顶尖的表现之一,真是很不可思议啊!
[–]Celticspugerko 113 指標 6小時前
I was kinda annoyed he didn"t want to workout for the celtics but I"m really happy for him now and hope he balls out next year
凯尔特人球迷:我当时有点生气他不愿意接受我凯的试训,但是我也真的为他现在的表现而高兴,希望他下个赛季更成功。
[–]nurtinonyabish 86 指標 6小時前
Danny Ainge was so pissed about that
丹尼-安吉当时差点没气死。
[–]CelticsTroyAtWork 75 指標 6小時前
Adebayo missing the 2nd team by one point, damn
And lol @ Teodosic getting a 1st team vote. Dude was fine at best and missed 37 games
凯尔特人球迷:阿德巴约只差一分就可以进二阵了啊,嘛蛋。
而且特奥多西奇居然得到了一张一阵选票啊哈哈哈哈笑死我了。这老哥顶多也就能算得上是比较出色吧,而且他还缺席了37场比赛啊。
[–]Lakersohveeohexoh 77 指標 5小時前
My boy josh hart didn’t even sniff a single vote? Damn.
湖人球迷:我的男孩约什-哈特居然一张选票都没得到?踏马的。
[–]BullsJohnSkippersSugarJar 103 指標 6小時前
So happy to see Lauri wasn"t snubbed. I was convinced he was going to be
公牛球迷:很高兴看到马尔卡宁没有被忽视。我之前真的确信他会被冷落的。
[–][CHI] Lauri MarkkanenTheSufferingPariah 1141 指標 6小時前
LAURI HAS DONE IT!
公牛球迷:马尔卡宁做到啦!
[–]Celticsavelak 255 指標 5小時前
THE FINNISHER
MARKKSMAN
WHITE DEATH
HELSINKI HELLRAISER
LAURI BIRD
He has so many amazing nicknames too
凯尔特人球迷:终结者
狙击手
白死神
赫尔辛基追魂猛鬼
劳里-伯德
他也有很多酷毙了的外号呢。
[–]Rocketszshawn10 367 指標 6小時前
I remember people saying the Bulls got ripped off and Lauri was going to be a really shitty version of Dirk
火箭球迷:我记得人们以前说公牛被狠宰了一顿,说马尔卡宁会是破产版的诺维茨基。
[–][DAL] Dan DickauJuniper41 1068 指標 6小時前
Dirk put up 8/3/1 on 41/21/77 shooting his rookie year, Lauri put up 15/8/1 on 44/36/84 shooting. Dirk"s peak saw him average 26.6 ppg, meaning Lauri will obviously jump up to 49.3 ppg his 8th season.
独行侠球迷:诺维茨基在新秀年场均拿到8分/3篮板/1助攻,投篮命中率41%,三分命中率21%,罚球命中率77%;而马尔卡宁新秀赛季场均得到15分/8篮板/1助攻,投篮命中率44%,三分命中率36%,罚球命中率84%。按照诺维茨基巅峰时期场均得到26.6分来推测马尔卡宁的话,那马尔卡宁会在他的第8个赛季场均得到49.3分。
[–]Lakersgyxorz 411 指標 6小時前
I have a totally irrational love for everyone in this draft class. Kinda like a proud uncle.
I hope all of them succeed and have great careers in the NBA.
湖人球迷:我对这一届的每个新秀都有种完全不理性的喜爱。有点像一个叔叔为自己的侄子而自豪。
我希望他们都可以获得成功,打出闪闪发光的NBA职业生涯。
[–]CelticsBlueJays007 145 指標 5小時前
This draft class is just full of talented and likable guys. Watched you guys bc of your pick earlier on and hated how much I liked your rookies
凯尔特人球迷:这届新秀里多得是充满天赋和令人喜爱的球员。因为你湖今年的选秀权归属问题,这赛季早期我看了不少你湖的比赛,这么说吧,我对你湖新秀的喜爱让我怀疑自己的凯蜜身份……
[–]Lakersboobdood 49 指標 4小時前
Likewise. I like Tatum.
湖人球迷:彼此彼此啦。我也喜欢塔特姆。
[–]Lakersonredditatworkagain 433 指標 6小時前
I"m glad John Collins made it. He looked really solid for most of the year.
Also, KUUUUUUZZZZZZZZ
湖人球迷:很高兴约翰-科林斯入选了最佳新秀阵容。他在这赛季里大多数时候都看起来真的很可靠。
而且,为库兹马打call!
[–]NBA_go_fuck_y0urself 358 指標 6小時前
would all of these players be a roy last year?
这些球员要是放在上赛季是不是都能拿到最佳新秀啊?
[–]jack12345618 541 指標 6小時前
Honestly most would
说实话,大多数都可以。
[–][DEN] Kostas PapanikolaouKorndawgg 89 指標 6小時前
Really don"t think so, Brogdon won for being effective on a good team
Mitchell and Simmons obviously would"ve won last year but a lot of these guys put up big numbers on really low efficiency on horrible teams
掘金球迷:我不这么觉得,布罗格登上赛季赢得最佳新秀是因为在一支优秀的球队发挥了自己的作用。
米切尔和西蒙斯要是在上个赛季的话,显然会赢得最佳新秀,但是主楼中很多人都是在烂队打出非常低效的表面好看的数据。
[–]jack12345618 270 指標 6小時前
At least all rookie 1st team would of won and lonzo and Smith jr imo.
至少最佳新秀阵容一阵里的球员应该都可以的,而且在我看来朗佐-鲍尔和丹尼斯-史密斯也可以。
[–][DEN] Kostas PapanikolaouKorndawgg 65 指標 6小時前
Dsj had nice numbers but he was super inefficient and the Mavs were tanking
Brogdon"s numbers were lower but he played valuable minutes and had a role on a playoff team, which is the whole reason he won the award in the first place
掘金球迷:丹尼斯-史密斯确实有很好看的数据,但是他真的超级低效,而且独行侠这赛季在摆烂呢。
布罗格登的数据没那么好看,但是他的上场时间很有价值,在一支季后赛球队里发挥作用,这些是他让他成为最佳新秀的原因。
[–][DAL] Dan DickauJuniper41 93 指標 6小時前
I"m not sold on DSJ at all, but Dario Saric was right in the running for ROY last year and he put up 13/6/2 on 41/31/78 shooting on a 28 win team. DSJ put up 15/4/5 on 40/31/70 for a 24 win team. I think you could argue DSJ put up better numbers than Dario (something ROY really takes into consideration) and would have been right there with Brogdon. Same with Lonzo.
独行侠球迷:我完全不相信DSJ到了上赛季能拿最佳新秀,但是达里奥-沙里奇确实也是上一年最佳新秀的竞争者之一,他在一支28胜的球队里得到了场均13分/6篮板/2助攻的数据,投篮命中率41%,三分命中率31%,罚球命中率78%。DSJ这赛季在一支24胜的球队里场均得到15分/4篮板/5助攻,投篮命中率40%,三分命中率31%,罚球命中率70%。可以说史密斯的数据比沙里奇的更好(这也确实是评选最佳新秀要考虑的因素之一),肯定跟布罗格登有的一争。鲍尔也是这样。
[–]LakersTheRiddlerX 106 指標 6小時前
This class really is deep as hell, most of them on this list has a chance of being future All-Stars.
湖人球迷:这届新秀阵容实力太厚了,这个名单中的大多数球员未来都有可能成为全明星球员的。
[–]RaptorsModernPoultry 143 指標 6小時前
Even the guys off the list. Allen, OG, Fox, Bam have All Star potential
猛龙球迷:甚至那些没入选最佳新秀阵容的球员也有可能成为未来的全明星,我觉得贾莱特-阿伦、OG-阿奴诺比、达龙-福克斯和巴姆-阿德巴约就可以。
[–]Jazzcasgoodnight 1453 指標 6小時前
Deepest rookie class ever. Crazy that guys like Bam, Fox and Anunoby didn"t even make the top ten. Usually the second team has a couple of dudes who are averaging like six points a game
爵士球迷:这届新秀应该是有史以来最有深度的一届了。像阿德巴约、福克斯和阿奴诺比甚至都没排进前十。通常最佳新秀二阵都是一些场均6分左右的球员。
[–][BKN] Rondae Hollis-JeffersonExpulsure 435 指標 6小時前
You forgot the man with the best hair in the NBA
篮网球迷:你忘了NBA里发型最炫酷的男人。
[–][BOS] Tom Heinsohnsolarscopez 315 指標 6小時前
Smh can’t believe they snubbed the toucan in Elfrid Payton’s hair like that...
凯尔特人球迷:哎!他们居然冷落了埃尔弗里德-佩顿大嘴鸟一样的发型……
[–]junkit33 218 指標 6小時前
I certainly wouldn"t say ever, at least not yet. There have been some damn good ones over the years, and this bunch has a long way to go. Also keep in mind that a couple of these guys, statistically speaking, will putter out. Lots of good looking rookies just suddenly get worse and/or never get better. So all-rookie teams always look more impressive when they"re fresh baked.
我绝对不会说“有史以来”这么绝对的话,至少现在还不会。过去这些年新秀深度很厚的年份太多了,这届新秀还有很长的路要走呢。而且不能忘了,从数据角度看,这些新秀有很多都会下滑的。很多看起来不错的新秀就是会突然表现变差然后/或者再也不变好起来。所以,最佳新秀阵容总是在刚出炉的时候显得更让人印象深刻。
96-97 - Iverson, Kobe, Marbury, Antoine Walker, Abdur-Rahim, Ray Allen, Camby in first two teams. Steve Nash didn"t make the cut.
96-97赛季:艾弗森、科比、马布里、安东尼-沃克、阿卜杜尔-拉希姆、雷-阿伦和坎比都在最佳新秀一阵和二阵中。史蒂夫-纳什甚至没能入选。
Then you have 03-04 with Lebron, Wade, Melo, and Bosh on 1st team.
Or 84-85 with Jordan, Hakeem, Barkley on 1st. John Stockton likely makes 2nd if they did a 2nd back then.
然后在03-04赛季,勒布朗、韦德、卡梅罗和波什都入选了最佳新秀一阵。
或者回到84-85赛季,乔丹、奥拉朱旺和巴克利入选了一阵。而要是当年有新秀二阵的话,约翰-斯托克顿很可能入选。
[–]Pacers BandwagonKevDozer 309 指標 6小時前
fuck yes lauri got first team. super proud of him, he totally deserved it, but this class is shtupid stacked. Wouldn"t be surprised if a future all star missed both teams
步行者球迷:马尔卡宁入选一阵真是太特么棒了,我超级为他骄傲,他完全配得上这个荣誉,但是这届新秀实在是太特么天赋爆棚了。要是某个没入选最佳新秀一阵和二阵的球员以后成了全明星,我一点都不会惊讶的。
[–][ATL] Joe JohnsonMunger88 134 指標 5小時前
Wouldn"t be surprising, it happens every draft class.
老鹰球迷:确实不会令人惊讶,每届新秀里都会有这样的球员。
2005: Andrew Bynum, David Lee
2006: Kyle Lowry
2007: Joakim Noah
2008: Goran Dragic, Roy Hibbert, DeAndre Jordan
2005:安德鲁-拜纳姆、大卫-李
2006:凯尔-洛瑞
2007:乔金-诺阿
2008:戈兰-德拉季奇、罗伊-希伯特、德安德烈-乔丹
2009: DeMar DeRozan, Jrue Holiday, Jeff Teague
2010: Gordon Hayward
2011: Jimmy Butler, Kemba Walker
2012: Draymond Green
2013: Rudy Gobert
2009:德马尔-德罗赞、朱-霍勒迪、杰夫-蒂格
2010:戈登-海沃德
2011:吉米-巴特勒、肯巴-沃克
2012:德雷蒙德-格林
2013:鲁迪-戈贝尔
Also judging by history it seems likely that a couple of these guys will flame out and be out of the league in a few years. Although maybe not because this year"s class is especially talented and deep.
而且从历史来看,似乎每年入选最佳新秀阵容的球员里都会有几个逐渐失去光芒,然后在几年之后离开联盟。不过今年可能不会这样了,因为这届新秀真的是太有天赋和深度了。
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