担心几年后看不到詹姆斯打球？美国网友想了解当年乔丹退役是什么 [Serious] To think that in a couple

[Serious] To think that in a couple of years sports will lose Lebron, ronaldo/messi and brady makes me wonder how the nba felt like when jordan retired.

平心而论，想象一下，几年后体育界将会失去詹姆斯、C罗、梅西和布雷迪……这不禁让我想起，乔丹退役的时候，NBA受到了怎样的冲击呢？

EDIT : i forgot to mention federer. Obviously there are more in sports i dont follow so i apologise for not naming all of them

编辑：我忘了提费德勒了。显然体育界还有更多大佬我没有关注到，所以我先为自己的疏忽道个歉。

Im not gonna lie. I am a kobe and ronaldinho fan but i can objectively say that while their retirements were impactful for me personally they dont come close to these guys who can be considered top 3 to GOATs in their discipline. Also it almost feels like these guys will all still be top players until the day they retire so I wonder as someone who did not watch jordan, how did it feel? The first season after Jordan retired and to a lesser extend when he left the nba to play baseball. And do me a favour and do not turn this into a GOAT debate.

我说实在的，虽然我是科比和罗纳尔迪尼奥的球迷，并且他俩的退役对我个人来说影响深远，但是客观地讲，他俩还是无法和我上面提到的那几位相提并论，那些人在各自领域都是历史前三。而且那几位给人的感觉大概是，直到退役之前他们都仍然是顶尖球员。所以作为一个没看过乔丹打球的人，我想问一下，他退役的时候，球迷是什么感觉？各位可以讲讲乔丹退役后的第一个赛季，当他离开NBA去打棒球后，联盟是什么情况。还有，各位老哥别把这个帖歪成关于辩论历史最佳球员的大会了。

Thanks in advance

先说声谢谢了！

[–][BOS] Jayson TatumBenhaus 490 指標 19小時前

Roger Federer isn"t far off either

凯尔特人球迷：费德勒也是属于这个（梅罗、詹姆斯）行列的。

[–][SAS] Manu GinobiliMalemansam 549 指標 18小時前

Pfft he"s about to hit his 5th prime now that the clay season is nearly over.

马刺球迷：呵，随着红土赛场接近结束，费德勒即将迈入自己的第五个巅峰期

[译注1]。

[译注1]：由于纳达尔在上周的马德里半决赛不敌蒂姆损失巨分，缺席整个红土赛季的费德勒因而在本周重回世界第一。

[–]NBAMCSpacy 227 指標 14小時前

The fact that I saw another Federer and Nadal grand slam final after all these years, makes me question when Federer will ever retire.

这么多年了，我前阵竟然又看到了一场费德勒VS纳达尔的大满贯决赛。这不禁让我想问，费德勒啥时候才退役啊？

[–]WarriorsRingus-Slaterfist 160 指標 11小時前

Even though we"re losing all these once in a generation athletes, the year will be 2045 and Roger Federer will still be destroying dudes a third of his age winning grand slams

勇士球迷：这些不世出的顶级运动员都要退役了，但到了2045年，费德勒仍然会打爆年龄只有他三分之一的对手并夺得大满贯。

[–]SpursFuckTimBeck 163 指標 12小時前

The dude just literally this week broke his own record for oldest no. 1 Tennis has ever seen, and also broke his own record for total weeks at number 1.

马刺球迷：费德勒这货上周刚刷新了他自己的网球史上最年长的世界第一的纪录，同时也刷新了自己之前占据世界第一总周数的纪录。

He did so while sitting on vacation (part of which he had spent raising money for his African foundation). That’s how dominant this dude is. He racked up enough points at the end of last season and early this season to take the number one ranking back from Nadal because Nadal lost in a semi-final of a tournament Roger didn’t even play because he is busy trying to help the people who need it most.

他在度假的时候做到了这一切（部分度假时间用来为他的非洲基金会募集资金）。可见这家伙是多么有统治力啊。在上赛季末，他积累了足够的分数。在本赛季初，由于纳达尔在马德里半决赛中败北，费德勒从纳达尔手上又重新夺回了世界第一。而当时费德勒甚至都没参赛，因为他正忙于帮助那些需要救助的人。

Most people try to relax when they are sitting out. What does he do with his time off? Raises money with Bill Gates to help the destitute in Africa. Amazing.

绝大部分人当他们休息时，只是试图放松下来。而费德勒休息的时候在干嘛？和比尔-盖茨一起募集资金，去帮助非洲苦难的人民。了不起呀！

In the last year and a quarter, Roger had missed 1/3 of the major Tennis season, yet he has enough points to retain number one. Dude is a beast, and at the same time spends much of his own money and time helping the destitute, without tooting his own horn on social media etc.

虽然在过去的一年零三个月中，费德勒缺席了三分之一的网球主要赛事，但是他有足够的积分来保住世界第一的位置。这家伙就是头野兽，与此同时，他花费自己大量的时间和金钱去帮助贫苦人民，却没在社交媒体上太过声张。

[–]76ersHodor_4_President 1257 指標 19小時前

There is a great injection of young talent into the NBA right now. No one will be "the next LeBron" but I do think the young stars will help numb the pain of his leaving. We just need to enjoy it while it lasts.

76人球迷：当下有很多天赋满满的年轻球员进入到了NBA。虽然他们没人将会成为下一个詹姆斯，但是我确实认为年轻的球星会减轻詹姆斯离去时带给我们的痛苦。

我们只需要趁勒布朗还在联盟打球，好好享受他的伟大。

[–]Heatwormhole222 716 指標 18小時前

I mean in the late 90s early 2000s we had Kobe, Shaq, and Duncan, but the NBA ratings still plummeted after MJ.

热火球迷：在上世纪末本世纪初，虽然我们拥有科比、奥尼尔和邓肯，但是乔丹退役后NBA的收视率仍然大幅下跌了。

[–]CavaliersPedosoKJ 268 指標 18小時前

You can’t really count alone for right after MJ leaving. He was still developing. And it didn’t help that there was a lockout right after Jordan retired.

骑士球迷：楼上的哥们，乔丹刚退役那会儿可不是收视率下跌的唯一原因啊。当时的科比还在发育中。而且乔丹退役之后联盟出现了停摆也是影响收视率的重要因素。

[–]CelticsMexter-Dorgan 307 指標 16小時前

wow the NBA had a lockout right after Jordan retired? He really was that important to the league. Amazing.

凯尔特人球迷：哇，NBA在乔丹退役之后停摆了？他真的对联盟很重要呀，了不起。

[–]ThunderChunky2432 89 指標 12小時前

It had nothing to do with Jordan. Players wanted more money.

雷霆球迷：联盟停摆和乔丹没有任何关系，是因为球员想要更多的钱。

[–]SpursFuckTimBeck 466 指標 12小時前

I think maybe just maybe that poster was joking

马刺球迷：我觉得楼上的老哥可能是在开玩笑。

[–][CHI] Cameron PayneSim888 494 指標 19小時前

A interesting gauge on Jordan retiring is the impact he had with the "I"m back." fax.

March, 1995:

Reports of Jordan"s possible comeback saw Bulls games throughout the league selling out, even inslow markets such as Atlanta. The corporations with which Jordan has endorsement ties saw their stock prices spurt, in what became known on Wall Street as "the $2-billion rumor."

公牛球迷：乔丹退役到底是什么概念？看看乔丹著名的“我回来了”的传真的影响吧：

1995年三月：

有关乔丹可能复出的报道出来后，公牛队比赛球票（主客场）全部售罄，即使是在像亚特兰大这样球市低迷的市场（票也一售而空）。乔丹代言的企业股价飙升。乔丹可能复出的流言在华尔街被称为“价值20亿美元的流言”。

Five days after the first reports of a comeback, Nike, his main endorsement deal, had jumped from 74 7/8 to 77 3/8, a gain in market value of $200 million.

Sara Lee, for whom he endorses Hanes underwear, was up 1 1/8, a gain of $500 million.

第一则关于乔丹复出的报道发布五天后，乔丹主要代言的耐克公司的股票价格从74.875美元涨到77.375美元，公司市值增加2亿美元。

乔丹代言恒适内裤的莎莉集团，股价上涨1.125美元，公司市值增加5亿美元。

Quaker Oats, for whom he endorses Gatorade, was up one-eighth, a gain of $100 million.

General Mills (Wheaties) was up 2 7/8, a gain of $500 million.

McDonald"s was up 1 7/8, a gain of $1 billion.

乔丹代言佳得乐的桂格燕麦公司，股价上涨1.125美元，公司市值增加1亿美元。

通用磨坊公司（乔丹代言了它的麦片），股价上涨2.875美元，公司市值增加5亿美元。

麦当劳股价上涨1.875美元，公司市值增加10亿美元。

In all, it added up to a $2.3-billion gain. Jordan has continued to draw his $3.8-million annual salary from the Bulls. There have been reports he wanted a new contract, but there is a league-wide freeze until a new labor contract is signed.

总的来说，这些公司市值上涨合计23亿美元。而乔丹继续执行与公牛队的380万美元年薪合同。有报道称他想要一份新合同，但是新劳资协议签订前，全联盟都处于观望状态。

[–]Rockets Bandwagon8coffeesandcounting 660 指標 18小時前

Imagine if LeBron had that sort of pull.

"I"m taking my talents..."

Dow Jones spikes in anticipation

"...to Memphis."

Recession commences

火箭球迷A：要是詹姆斯也拥有乔丹这样的影响力：

詹姆斯：“我将把我的天赋带到…”

美国道琼斯指数预先上涨。

“…带到孟菲斯。”

大萧条开始。

[–]GrizzliesWaxStatue 248 指標 12小時前

Seriously, fuck all"a y"all

灰熊球迷：滚。

[–]RocketsDaroo425 428 指標 15小時前

LeBron is not going to Memphis

火箭球迷B：放心，詹姆斯是不会去灰熊的。

[–]klutch248 237 指標 19小時前

"I am Kobe and ronaldinho fan" stop there. You are my brother from another mother. The reason i love both basketball and football.

“我是科比和罗纳尔迪尼奥的球迷。”楼主憋说了，你就是我同父异母的兄弟！他俩分别是我喜欢篮球和足球的原因。

[–]at_midknight 131 指標 17小時前

Living in san antonio my entire life and facing the lakers constantly over the years, it was really a 180° flip over the course of 1 summer when tim duncan and kobe bryant (and to a lesser extent kevin garnett) both walked away from the game and i was suddenly watching a spurs lakers game that didnt feature either of the iconic greats. I just felt a general sense of loneliess and am sure the same will happen for me when lebron retires as he has been my favorite player since he was 17

我这辈子都住在圣安东尼奥，多年来一直目睹马刺对阵湖人。当邓肯和科比（还有加内特，不过他对我的影响小一点）都在那个夏天离开联盟后，我的人生确实有天旋地转的变化。忽然之间，一场马刺和湖人的比赛中竟然都没有标志性的伟大球星的身影。这大概就是孤独的感觉，相信当詹姆斯退役的时候我也是这种感觉，从詹姆斯17岁开始，他就是我最喜欢的球星了。

[–]Kobe BryantTerry_Pandee 147 指標 19小時前

Life just goes on. Kobe was my entire childhood and honestly I haven"t even gone back to watch a highlight reel. I love basketball and even when my favorite player retires or favorite team stinks I still enjoy the game and there"s always something in the league to keep you invested.

湖人球迷：生活还要继续。科比就是我的整个童年！而且老实说，当他退役后，我甚至都没回过头去看他的集锦。我喜欢篮球，即使当我最喜欢的球员退役时，或者最喜爱的球队战绩糟糕，我依旧享受比赛。联盟中总有一些东西能让你继续关注。

[–]CavaliersThe_NA_Deft 102 指標 18小時前

That’s crazy. I’m not even a huge Kobe fan but I constantly watch old Kobe tape just to see that beautiful mid range game.

骑士球迷：这很疯狂。我算不上科比的忠实粉丝，但是我时常看科比的旧视频，就是为了体验下他美如画的中距离投篮。