健康大帝领跑DPOY，戈贝尔缺阵太多追梦表现不佳没戏？健康大帝领跑最佳防守球员

健康大帝领跑最佳防守球员，戈贝尔缺阵太多、追梦表现不佳没戏了？

名记Zach Lowe谈最佳防守球员的争夺：“问题是鲁迪-戈贝尔最多也只能打56场比赛......这并不是很多，我不确定这足以让他成为今年的最佳防守球员。目前来说乔尔-恩比德可能是领跑者。”

[Zach Lowe on Defensive Player of the Year] "The problem is Rudy Gobert is gonna play a maximum of 56 games...that ain"t a lot and I"m not sure it"s enough to get him defensive player of the year. [Joel Embiid] might be the front runner right now"

From the most recent Lowe Post podcast with Kevin Arnovitz, Zach Lowe discussed his predictions about defensive player of the year. After mentioning Al Horford, Rudy Gobert and Draymond Green as candidates, Lowe states that Joel Embiid is the frontrunner to win in his eyes.

Zach Lowe在他最新一期的播客中与Kevin Arnovitz谈到了他对最佳防守球员的预测。在提到艾尔-霍弗德，鲁迪-戈贝尔和德拉蒙德-格林等候选人之后，Zach Lowe认为乔尔-恩比德是他心目中这个奖项的领跑者。

[–]Knicks Tankswagonphilipquarles 525 指標 23小時前

We are now in a timeline where Joel Embiid might win an award because somebody else missed games.

世道变了，恩比德竟然可能因为其他人缺席场次过多而获奖！山水轮流转啊。

[–]HornetsIamOlderthanMe 137 指標 1 天前

I would give it to Gobert if he played 65 games.

Dude is otherworldly in defense. Truly changes the Jazz.

For now, it is Joel.

如果戈贝尔能打上65场比赛，我会选他的。

这哥们儿在防守端的表现可以说是毁天灭地，他彻底改变了爵士这支队伍。

不过现在来看，我选恩比德。

[–]76ersBirdRights 15 指標 13小時前

can"t you say the exact same thing about Embiid? our defense goes from near league best to near league worst when he"s out.

76人球迷：大帝难道不是在做着一样的事？当他不上场时，我们的防守水平从联盟前列直接滑到谷底。

[–][UTA] Andrei Kirilenkobeefdog99 50 指標 1 天前

I didn"t even like Kawhi winning it with 64 games so I"ve been Jojo/AD for awhile now. Embiid because I think he has the best combo of impact/minutes and Davis because he"s a superstar with the numbers to draw voters.

爵士球迷：伦纳德拿下最佳防守球员那年只出战了64场比赛，当时我就觉得不应该给他，所以我这些日子来一直觉得最佳防守球员应该是恩比德或者浓眉。恩比德防守影响力很大，出场时间和次数也足够。至于浓眉嘛，他的防守数据很耀眼，也是超巨，能吸引足够选票。

[–]76ersKerrisBoy 13 指標 1 天前

Embiid"s probably only gonna play like 65 games tbh

76人球迷：老实讲，恩比德到最后可能也只会打上65场比赛。

[–][UTA] Andrei Kirilenkobeefdog99 9 指標 23小時前

Oh for sure but with his competition I think he still reaches the best balance. Kawhi"s win came while playing 15 less games than peak Draymond whereas this field doesnt have the same kind of standout.

爵士球迷：哦，没错，但是你得考虑恩比德的竞争对手啊。总体来看，我认为恩比德还是出场次数和防守水准平衡地最好的。伦纳德在比巅峰格林少出战15场比赛的情况下拿下了这个奖项，不过这次的DPOY候选人还没有这么大的差距。

[–]Pacerswldd5 35 指標 1 天前

I could see them giving it to Gobert because he"s been so good for longer. It seems like that gets factored in with DPOY.

戈贝尔也许会胜出，因为相比恩比德，戈贝尔打出最佳防守球员级别的防守水平的时间更久。这可能是评选最佳防守球员时会考虑到的因素。

[–]Dylkim 15 指標 20小時前

I have Embiid and Horford neck and neck, but Embiid has the edge because he has less defensive talent to work with.

But it"s an utter travesty Gobert is not going to play enough games to really qualify, because he"s better than Embiid on that end.

The fact that he makes his team"s defensive rating below 102 in the current NBA is absolutely filthy.

我认为恩比德和霍弗德旗鼓相当，但恩比德有微弱优势，因为恩比德身边出色的防守球员更少。

不过，戈贝尔达不到场次要求真是太可惜了！因为他比恩比德的防守更好啊。

在现代NBA，戈贝尔竟然让爵士的防守效率值低于102，太不可思议了。

[–]drbbling 5 指標 17小時前

The amount of games Gobert is predicted to play, is well over half the season and is an big enough sample size to qualify him IMO

戈贝尔参赛场数最终应当会超过赛季总场数的一半吧，我觉得这个样本足够大到符合评选标准了吧。

[–]76erstjt5055 0 指標 14小時前

Embiid is at 102 as well

That said, I think you underestimate Philly"s defensive talent aside from Embiid.

Covington is arguably a top-5 wing defender and Simmons has been an excellent defender as a rookie. Redick and Saric aren"t great defenders, but neither are a liability on that end.

76人球迷：恩比德也一样使球队的防守效率值达到了102，

不过，我觉得你低估了76人队除了恩比德之外的球员的防守天赋。

科温顿可以说是防守前5的锋卫；作为一名新秀，西蒙斯的防守能力也相当优秀。雷迪克和萨里奇并不是特别好的防守球员，但也不是累赘啊。

[–]Dylkim 7 指標 13小時前

Embiid is at 103.4, Gobert is below 102.

I am not undermining your team at all: Redick is a decent enough team defender, although Saric is pretty bad on that end.

Covington is excellent as well

But Jazz"s defense, in both talent and schemes, is superior than the sixers.

大帝的76人防守效率值是103.4，戈贝尔的爵士防守效率值不到102。

先说一句，我完全没有低估你费的防守天赋：雷迪克是一名足够称职的团队防守球员，不过萨里奇在这方面是够差劲的。

科温顿也很棒，

但爵士的防守，无论是天赋还是战术方面，都要比76人好。

[–]RaptorsAbyss333333 105 指標 1 天前

idk. Gobert is crazy good right now. and there isn"t some standout candidate from the bunch so might as well give it to him. even if it"s only 50 games played, he completely changed Utah"s season with his presence

我不知道该给谁。戈贝尔现在状态火热，而且现在也没有一枝独秀独自领跑的，所以不妨就给戈贝尔吧。就算只打了50场比赛，他在防守端的贡献也彻底扭转了爵士队的整个赛季。

[–]everythingisamovie 60 指標 1 天前

Embiid is only gonna play like 10 more games. I don"t get the argument.

恩比德不就多打了就大概十场嘛？我不明白这都可以拿来压戈贝尔。

[–][PHI] JaKarr SampsonFreak_Fest 10 指標 23小時前

He"s on pace to play closer to 70 than 60.

76人球迷：他的上场次数相对于60场，更有望接近70场。

[–]Lakersrionbull 32 指標 21小時前

66 is closer to 70 than 60 and is 10 more than 56

66比60更接近70，比56大10，没毛病。

[–]76ersbjamil1 13 指標 1 天前

"the best ability is availability" /s

76人球迷：“最大的本事就是能上场打球”，TX。

[–][deleted] 27 指標 23小時前

Why the /s?

It"s the truth. You can"t play well if you can"t play at all

T什么X？

这不就是事实嘛，如果你都上不了场，你永远打不出优异表现。

[–][deleted] 44 指標 1 天前

I agree but I"m biased

Horford has been awesome and I won"t be mad if he wins

Roberson is gonna miss half the year and Gobert missed 30 games

PG and KD are fake DPOTY canidates and Draymond was slow for the first 25% of the year. Been great since though

I got embiid

我同意但是我有点偏心。

霍弗德一直很出色，如果他拿下了这个奖项，我不会生气。

罗伯森出场数也就40场左右吧，戈贝尔已经缺席了30场比赛。

泡椒和杜兰特在这个评选里就是打酱油的，根本算不上竞争者，而追梦格林在今年前四分之一赛季的表现并不咋滴，尽管现在状态很棒。

所以我选大帝。

[–][BOS] Jaylen Brownsiliconmessiah96 18 指標 1 天前

I got Embiid as well. Horf has been amazing, Dray should always be in consideration, Gobert is unreal but like has been mentioned hasn"t played a ton this year, but Embiid is something else.

Ignoring him passing the eye test with flying colors, his on/off ratings are huge, and no matter who he"s out there with, if he"s on the floor the DRTG is stellar. He"s 100% my DPOY front runner right now.

凯尔特人球迷：我也选大帝。霍弗德一直都很棒，追梦也始终应该在考虑之中，戈贝尔表现的确很逆天，但是就像前面提到的，今年出战的比赛场次不够多。而大帝是独一档的存在。

印象分方面，大帝自然是满分啦，抛开印象流不谈咱可以看数据：大帝在场和不在场时76人的防守差异巨大。无论和谁一起搭配，只要恩比德站场上，76人的防守效率值就绝对只高不低。他现在无疑是最佳防守球员领跑者。

[–][BKN] Vince CarterLiaM_CS 36 指標 1 天前

My vote is on Gobert if the Jazz gets a better record than the Sixers

如果爵士到最后比76人队战绩更好，我会选戈贝尔。

[–]GrizzliesNashvilleGrizzly 15 指標 20小時前

I don"t know if you"re serious, but that would be really bad criteria.

Gobert should win it just because he"s better, it"s an individual award.

不知道你是不是认真的，但是这都能作为评判标准的话就太离谱了。

戈贝尔能赢下这个奖项也是因为他本人的实力更出色，这是个人奖项啊。

[–]Thunderjwestbrook95 9 指標 15小時前

If Roberson never got injured he should have been a lock. Probably wouldn"t have won it anyway though because he"s not a big enough name.

雷霆球迷：如果罗伯森没伤，他应该是不二人选，虽然以他的名气不太可能拿下这个奖。

[–]GrizzliesNashvilleGrizzly 18 指標 20小時前

Gobert should be DPOY.

But it"s funny that people would have used this argument against Embiid if it were the other way around, but probably won"t use it against Gobert.

戈贝尔应该是最佳防守球员。

但是有趣的是，如果反过来，人们会使用场次不够这个理由反对恩比德当选，但有可能不会用它来反对戈贝尔。

[–][PHI] Eric SnowPhillyFreezer_ 21 指標 1 天前

Joel"s earned it. People can go look at his defensive stats, he makes the sixers elite on defense like only Roberson has done this year. Horford and PG13 don"t have the numbers against him

76人球迷：大帝值得这个奖项。你们可以去看看他的防守数据，他让球队在防守端的表现达到了精英级别，只有罗伯森和大帝在这方面是一个级别。霍弗德和乔治的防守数据可不行哦。

[–]Lakerssocaljunior 283 指標 1 天前

Ill never get over the fact Bill Simmons around the 25 game mark said Embiid doesnt stand out defensively lol

湖人球迷：恩比德打了大约25场比赛的时候，比尔西蒙斯居然说他的防守只是平庸而已，真搞笑。这件事我永远忘不了。

[–]JazzInMyBrokenChair 214 指標 1 天前

Bill Simmons is a great writer who is just as good of an analyst as the average /r/NBA user.

比尔-西蒙斯是一位出色的作家，同时也是一位不错的分析师。分析水平怎么样呢？和论坛网友平均分析水平差不多吧。

[–]NetsLanaRhoades- 140 指標 1 天前

average NBA user is not a extremely biased Celtics fan who doesn"t watch most games

一般的论坛网友可不是非常有偏爱凯尔特人球迷啊，而且一般的网友也不会不怎么看比赛。[译注1]

[译注1]：比尔-西蒙斯：著名专栏作家，尤擅长分析NBA。从不掩饰自己的凯尔特人死忠粉的身份，经常吐糟詹姆斯，同时也钟爱杜兰特和勇士（与采访权限有关），爱憎分明到不惜夸张。

[–][deleted] 90 指標 1 天前

They are the latter part and most are biased for their own team

网友们是不一样，不过大多数人也都更偏爱自己的主队

[–]NetsLanaRhoades- 72 指標 1 天前

Celtic bias is worse than normal bias, it"s source comes from the Tommy Heinsohn deluded fountain

凯蜜要比其他球迷吹的更厉害，都来自于汤姆-海因索恩的口水灌溉。[译注2]

[译注2]：汤姆-海因索恩：前凯尔特人冠军成员及冠军教头，退役后专职凯尔特人队比赛解说员。他的解说风趣幽默，随时敢于质疑那些不利于凯尔特人的判罚，在波士顿当地球迷中颇受欢迎。

[–][deleted] 48 指標 1 天前

It ain"t any worse. Its just more apparent because they have such a large fanbase

Nobody gives a fuck if a suns fan overrated Devin Booker or a Kings fan overrated Bodgan but if a Celtics fan says like "Kyrie is a top 3 pg" or something than people will harp on them

并没有更能吹，只是因为他们的粉丝数太多了才那么惹眼。

如果太阳球迷吹德文-布克或国王球迷吹博格丹，并没人会在乎。但如果一名凯尔特人球迷说“欧文是联盟前三的控卫”之类的话，立马就会招来大量口水。

[–]GrizzliesFireLordEustace 47 指標 22小時前

No. Celtics fans are actually the worst. Source: lived in Boston.

我不同意，凯蜜就是最能吹的。消息源：我住在波士顿。