最不喜欢的论坛现象：近期偏见，喜欢对比而不是赞扬球员美JRs盘点最不喜欢的论坛现象：近期偏

美JRs盘点最不喜欢的论坛现象：近期偏见，喜欢对比而不是赞扬球员

Your least favourite thing about r/nba?

你最讨厌话题区的什么现象？

Mine is by far the recency bias. It is unbelievable crazy and so common. Player A goes on a five game hot streak and cue the following posts:

‘Is Player A a top 5 player?’ ‘Is Player A when its all said and done gonna be a top 20 player of all time’ ‘Why Player A is better than Kawhi Leonard’

目前为止我最不喜欢的就是近期偏见[译注1]了。简直太不可思议和常见了。球员A连续五场比赛表现火热然后就会出现这种帖子：

“球员A是联盟前五吗？”“球员A的NBA生涯尘埃落定之时能成为历史前二十吗？”“为什么说球员A比科怀-伦纳德更好？”

[译注1]：近期偏见是指当人们识记一系列事物时对末尾部分项目的记忆效果优于中间部分项目的现象。在篮球领域中，这包括但不限于过于高估现役球员。

Yes this is in response to the Damian Lillard overrating the past two months as well as a half of this sub who think Russ isn’t a top 7/8 player anymore.

没错，我举的这三个例子就是回应过去两个月以来各位JR对利拉德的高估和对威少的低估（半个话题区的JR认为威少不再是联盟前七或前八的球员，说你们呢）。

[–]GrizzliesA_Topical_Pun 370 指標 14小時前

People arguing with you about players or teams that they obviously haven"t watched play.

For a more specific and personal one, people treating the Grizzlies like a Cleveland Browns level franchise because we"re having our first bad season this decade.

灰熊球迷：别人和你争论着他们自己压根没看过比赛的球员或球队。

拿个跟我主队相关的具体例子来说吧：就因为我熊这赛季是近十年来唯一一次表现稀烂的，人们就觉得灰熊好像就是克利夫兰布朗队那种自成一档的大烂队。

[–]Suns TankwagonMasochisticCanesFan 92 指標 13小時前

Try being a suns fan bro. Imagine 5+ years of that

太阳球迷：深表同情，但是瞅瞅我们吧，被嘲笑了五年有余啊！

[–]Raptorssirprizes 49 指標 10小時前

So if that’s the case wouldn’t Suns-Browns be a more apt comparison than Grizzlies-Browns?

所以如果是那样的话，太阳-布朗队不是比灰熊-布朗队这个比较更恰当吗？

[–]Sunssunsbr 29 指標 9小時前

Of course not suns is top 5 in win percentage many 50 win seasons grizzlies is worse

太阳球迷：当然不是啊，就队史战绩来讲，太阳的总胜率排NBA前五，打出了很多50胜的赛季，灰熊比我们要差不少。

[–]Bullsmyspicymeatballs 16 指標 9小時前

Feel like the organization, not only the team, has been kind of a mess these past few years tho. But i get the point

我感觉太阳的管理层（不仅仅是球队本身），在过去几年里可是一团糟。但我懂楼上的意思。

[–][TOR] Hakeem OlajuwonTell-Me-Fun-Facts 13 指標 9小時前

If people think of the Suns as a shit franchise, then that"s a good indicator that they haven"t been watching basketball for very long. Maybe they"ll receive a lesson in Suns history soon, when your 2x MVP enters the HOF.

如果有人觉得太阳是烂队的标杆，那就完美展现了他们没看过多久球的事实。

可能当你日的两届MVP进入名人堂的时候，这些小球迷就会被教育一番，好好上一节太阳的历史课。

[–]LakersZehahahahahaha 411 指標 14小時前

Whenever someone has a controversial opinion but has a solid point and gets downvoted anyways while no one is even replying to him.

每当有人发表了有争议的观点，虽然有理有据，但不管怎样都会被点灭，而且甚至都没人敢去回复（反驳）他。

[–]Raptorsderozansmole 193 指標 14小時前

It"s not just an r/nba thing. It"s an internet thing. People typically go with momentum a lot of times. It"s a weird thing people do.

这可不仅仅是咱话题区的毛病。这是互联网的通病啊。人们总是会跟着舆论的风向走。想想哈挺怪的。

[–]76ers--__-__-__-_-_-_-__- 43 指標 14小時前

And whenever I point this out (that people will just downvote because other people already are) I become one of the victims

而且每当我指出这一点（人们是因为别人点灭而选择点灭），我就成了众矢之至。

[–][GSW] Baron Davisjetveritech 23 指標 12小時前

If you"re not with the mob, your against it

要么加入舆论先行军，要么就经受他们的疯狂点灭。

[–][LAL] Brandon Ingramkerim98 32 指標 14小時前*

Isn"t it possible to hide the score for an hour like other subs do? This could possibly increase the amount of profound and interesting discussions, as others don"t feel frightened to get downvoted instantly.

就不能像其他论坛一样先将点亮数隐藏一个小时吗？这样可能会增加有深度的和有趣的讨论量，同样的其他人也不会因为被立即灭到折叠而被吓到。

[–][BKN] D"Angelo RussellEmotional_platypus 45 指標 14小時前

Idk if this is controversial but I get downvoted for it regularly. Klay Thompson will never be the best player on a championship team. I like Klay a lot like the rest of this sub but anything against him is instant heresy.

我不知道这会不会挑口水，但我通常会因为这个评论被点灭：克莱-汤普森永远不会成为一支冠军球队里最好的球员。

我和论坛上其他人一样十分喜欢克莱，但任何对他不好的话立马就成了异端邪说。

[–]NetsHelloImMike 75 指標 14小時前

That"s not a controversial opinion on this sub, quite the opposite really. Maybe you were posting on the wrong thread at the wrong time.

这个观点在论坛不会挑口水的，实际上正好相反，这是很合理的观点。你可能在错误的时间进入了错误的帖子吧。

[–]76ersKingK5E 233 指標 14小時前

Recency bias and revisionist history

近期偏见和历史修正主义。

[–][BKN] D"Angelo Russellj_cruise 46 指標 9小時前

People acting like Melo was never good ??

人们现在表现得就像甜瓜没有牛逼过一样??。

[–]76ersLorax1515 215 指標 13小時前

That hasn"t even been bad lately, and to be honest was never really a problem.

反对楼主。历史修正主义最近可没有很严重哦，实际上，历史修正主义在本话题区的历史里从来就没出现过啊。

[–]Hawkslilmigosvert 105 指標 11小時前*

you can"t be serious

edit: lemme hold this L

楼上你是认真的吗。

编辑：感谢其他老哥提醒，我当了一回老实人，是在下输了！

[–]Guevorkyan 163 指標 14小時前

The sometimes hilarious, but rather pointless, wouldbe comparisons like: "Would a Steph Curry without 3-pt range but with dunking ability be better than a fatter, hairier version of KG without proper footwork?"

有时候很滑稽但实际上毫无意义的比较，比如“拥有扣篮包但失去三分包的斯蒂芬-库里会比体型更胖毛发更多但没有脚步版的KG更强吗？”

[–]Celticsscarecrowbar 126 指標 13小時前

I mean how hairy are we talkin

我们到底在YY什么样的发量啊。

[–]Guevorkyan 20 指標 13小時前

Let"s say, one order of magnitude hairier. That would be 2 hairs.

这么说吧，多一个数量级的头发。大概是两根头发。

[–]Warriorstalanted_o 14 指標 10小時前

in between Stockton"s legs, and Drummond"s shoulders

你问毛量？大概介于斯托克顿的腿毛和德拉蒙德肩毛之间吧。

[–]ThunderStacheAdams- 147 指標 13小時前

Cherrypicked stats to fit homer narratives.

精挑细选数据来迎合充满偏向的舆论。

[–][SAS] Kawhi LeonardEddie5pi 104 指標 12小時前

Personal favorite stat was that AD was the first player ever with a triple double with blocks on their birthday

个人最喜欢的数据是：安东尼-戴维斯是首位在生日夜完成盖帽三双的球员。

[–]RocketsHunterGuntherFelt 42 指標 11小時前

To be fair, that was just parroting the ESPN social media feeds

公平地说，你说的这条是JR在模仿ESPN的推送罢了。

[–]cyanmangos42 11 指標 6小時前

My personal favorite is the gem ESPN made

"Curry joins LeBron as only 2 players in last 5 seasons to record 25-pt double-double on 27th birthday."

I couldn"t have made a more juicy cherry pick stat if I tried.

我个人最喜欢的是ESPN的这条精品：

“库里加入勒布朗，成为过去五年内仅有的两名在27岁生日得到25分两双的球员。”

如果我来的话，再怎么精挑细选也找不到这么骚的数据。

[–]Rocketsel_monstruo 37 指標 11小時前

Yes, I absolutely hate arbitrary stats to help boost a performace.

一点没错，我十分讨厌随意选择数据来渲染比赛表现。

[–]Jazzprobably_is_fhqwgads 79 指標 10小時前*

As a Jazz fan, I am so sick of the ROY arguments. Every time Mitchell or Simmons does something good it becomes a point of controversy rather than a celebration of talent.

爵士球迷：作为一个爵士球迷，我十分厌恶最佳新秀的争论。每当米切尔或西蒙斯打出好的表现，就会演变成争论而不是对天赋的赞扬。

I don"t care one bit who wins ROY, nobody remembers that award after a few years. Simmons and Mitchell are both going to be All-Stars/Super-Stars. Forget that award. In a few years, when these two guys are leading their teams to the conference finals, nobody will care who won ROY. Just celebrate them while they"re young.

我一点也不在乎谁会赢得最佳新秀，没有人会在几年后记得这个奖项。西蒙斯和米切尔都会成为全明星或超级巨星。忘了这个奖项吧。几年后，当这两个家伙带领各自队伍到分区决赛时，没有人会在乎谁赢得了最佳新秀。当他们还年轻的时候给他们赞美吧，别吵来吵去了！

[–][POR] Damian LillardBobbith_The_Chosen 5 指標 3小時前

Yeah for real it’s a cool achievement at the time but dosent mean much to your career. Dame won it in his rookie season, which he absolutely deserved to over Anthony Davis, but compare them now and Dame is nowhere near AD’s level. Nobody brings up Dames ROY award in arguments about who’s better.

开拓者球迷：说的太对了。最佳新秀在球员的新秀生涯算是个很酷的成就，但对生涯来说意义不大。利拉德在新秀赛季赢得了这个奖项，力压安东尼-戴维斯，这是他应得的，但要现在来讲，利拉德根本跟浓眉没法比。当争论他俩谁更好的时候没有人会拿利拉德的最佳新秀说事。

[–]Rocketsmercwitha40ounce 13 指標 5小時前

Every time Mitchell or Simmons does something good it becomes a point of controversy rather than a celebration of talent.

每当米切尔或西蒙斯打出好的表现，就会演变为争论而不是对天赋的赞扬。

God yes, that was this sub the whole second half of last season between Harden and Westbrook.

On any given night, the sub could be either very pro harden/anti Westbrook or vice versa, all based on if one of them had a good game.

你说得太TM对了，话题区上赛季就是这么演绎哈登VS威少的。

在任何一天，这个论坛要么是狂吹哈登/贬低威斯布鲁克，要么就是狂黑哈登捧吹威少，这一切只取决于威少和哈登谁在哪天打得好。

[–]MayorAvila 39 指標 14小時前

The constant complaining about shit that doesn"t really matter.

永远在抱怨一些鸡毛蒜皮的屁事。

[–]Lakerskbx24 25 指標 10小時前

When I see posts about stats that have no context.

There was a post about a week ago comparing Tim Duncan"s teammates to some present-day scrubs just because they had the same stats.

Recency bias is a pretty big thing on r/nba too.

只列数据完全不提背景知识的帖子最令我讨厌。

大约一周前，有一个帖子把蒂姆-邓肯03年的队友替换成了一些现役的渣渣，依据仅仅是他们打出了相同的数据（得分）。

近期偏见在话题区也是个大问题。

[–]fatkamp 59 指標 14小時前

People that laugh and belittle your predictions.

For example: People would laugh at me and downvote me to hell if I said last year that Oladipo could possibly break out and lead the pacers to playoffs

我最讨厌的是：人们会嘲笑并且贬低你的预测。

举个栗子：如果我去年说奥拉迪波可能会爆发然后将步行者带到季后赛，人们会嘲笑死我然后灭到我怀疑人生。

[–]Celticsmigibb 22 指標 10小時前

For me it"s this, combined with there never being any redemption if you end up right. It makes it tough to justify arguing an unpopular opinion.

对我来说就是这个，而且如果你预测对了，你当时被灭也就被灭了，不会有任何的补偿。所以大家就越来越不愿意去为一个非主流的观点而据理力争。