美球迷：轻吹！请客观看待大帝表现，君临天下还需时间与健康！美球迷：轻吹！请客观看待大帝表现

美球迷：轻吹！请客观看待大帝表现，君临天下还需时间与健康！

Embiid is a fantastic talent, but let"s slow down a bit.

恩比德是一名极具天赋的球员，但是咱是不是吹得太过了？

Now before you eat me alive, hear me out. I"m not saying we should stop talking about him completely because he really is an amazing young talent and has the potential to be one of the best. However, I"ve been hearing things like "Embiid is a top 5 player if healthy" or "Embiid will be the NBA"s best player after LeBron if healthy" on many threads. And they get upvoted like crazy. Don"t get me wrong, I see the potential just like everybody else, but that"s just a crazy claim for such a small sample size.

在你们准备把我活生生吃掉之前，请听我把话先说完。我的意思不是说我们应该完全不讨论恩比德了，因为他确实天赋很好啊，也很年轻，也有潜力成为历史级别名宿。但是，我也时常看到一些JR说什么“保持健康的大帝会是联盟前五巨星”或者是“保持健康的大帝会是继詹姆斯之后联盟里最伟大的球星”，而且这些评论会被疯狂地点亮。千万别曲解我的意思，我就像其余人一样都看到了大帝的潜力，但是通过如此小的样本而说出这样的评论其实是挺疯狂的。

I say this because to be a top 5 player or the best player in the league, you have to sustain it. And I don"t mean just health. What"s incredible with guys like LeBron is not that they are incredibly talented, but that nearly every night they are the best player on the court. EVERY. SINGLE. GAME. Now, I"m not saying Embiid can"t be that guy, but there"s a reason there is a big difference between the top 20 guys and the top 5 guys.

我这么说是因为，要想成为联盟前五巨星，你必须要有保持稳定的表现。我并不仅仅是指保持健康。那些令人感到不可思议的球员，比如说詹姆斯，并不是因为他们有着令人瞪目结舌的天赋，而是因为几乎每一天晚上的比赛，他们都表现得像他们就是球场上最好的那名球员。注意了，我说的是，每一场比赛！现在我不是在说恩比德不会成为这种球员，但联盟前二十球星不等同于联盟前五巨星，它们之间还是有很大区别的。

For example, Paul George is a good case to look at. If you remember the 2013-2014 season, Paul George was pretty much the undisputed MVP. He looked incredible and, quite frankly, unstoppable at the time. And this was for a pretty long stretch. People were talking about him being a top 5 player and one of the next great players in the league. And for good reason. However, he and the team took a major downturn the second half of the season and he returned to his up and down self. And he continues to be that player, he has streaks where he plays at such a high level he could be argued to be one of the very best players in the league. Then he follows that up with pretty mediocre play and leaves you scratching your head.

举例来说吧，保罗-乔治就是个很好的例子。如果你还记得2013-2014赛季，乔治几乎就是无可争议的MVP。他的表现看起来令人感觉难以置信，不吹不黑，那时没人阻止得了他，而且他的表现还算是持续了很长的一段时间。人们把他当成联盟前五巨星、下一位NBA联盟最伟大的球员之一一样来讨论他，而且出发点也是好的。然而，他和步行者在下半个赛季里遭遇很大的下滑，他的状态也回到他曾经起伏不定时那样。然后他还是他，状态起伏不定。当他表现出色的时候，球队连胜，他也能进入到联盟最佳球员的讨论中，当他状态下滑打得就像一个普通球员一样，人们就挠着头郁闷说他到底怎么了。

I bring this up because we have only seen Embiid play a handful of games. He has looked incredible and I truly think he can be one of the true stars in this league, but I first need to see him put together a full season where he plays at an extremely high-level night in and night out. And that"s including health and play. Because as I said, pretty much anybody in the top 20 of the NBA can put together an impressive string of 20-30 games, but the true greats can carry it on for an entire season and into the playoffs.

我举乔治的例子是因为我们仅仅看过恩比德寥寥无几的比赛。他看起来令人难以置信而且我也真心相信他能成为联盟中真正的球星之一，但是我还是得先看到他完完整整打完一个赛季，同时每晚都能保持一个极高的水平。极高的水平包括了他的健康状态和他的表现。因为就好像我说的那样，几乎每一个联盟前二十的球星都可以打出一连串20到30场令人印象深刻的比赛，但是只有那些真正伟大的巨星才能保持整个赛季和季后赛都会有绝佳的表现。

I"m a huge fan of Embiid and hope he can stay healthy and become one of the greats, but let"s sit back watch what actually happens first.

我绝对是大帝的死忠粉，我也希望他能一直保持健康然后成为最伟大的球员之一，但是让我们先别着急，好好坐下来看看接下来到底会发生什么。

[–]NuggetsBallMop 918 points 17 hours ago

r/nba is just insanely biased in terms of recency

的确，Reddit的近期偏差太严重了。[译注1]

[译注1]人们倾向于以自己记忆中最近的历史经验和趋势判断未来，这在许多情况下也是被证明正确的。但如果只看现象不理解问题本质，情况出现转折时，有可能出现完全错误的判断而无法自拔。

[–][SAS] Marco BelinelliChiliConChaos 599 points 17 hours ago

Dunno what you’re talking about KUZMA MVP 2017-FOREVER

听不懂你在说什么！库兹马MVP MVP MVP MVP到永远！！

[–]Lakers BandwagonDongsquad420BlazeIt 160 points 16 hours ago

Looks right to me.

湖人球迷：老铁没毛病。

[–]NuggetsKyanon34 72 points 12 hours ago

Duncan wasn"t even that good in retrospect! I mean what did he do that Bobby Portis can"t?

现在想想，邓肯一点儿也不算强啊！他能做的，博比-波蒂斯都能做到啊。

[–][MIA] Harold Minerparadoxofchoice 103 points 16 hours ago

Tbf, the majority of r/NBA have been watching for less than a decade so recency is all they have.

直话直说，湿乎乎上大部分人都只看过少于十个赛季的比赛，所以“最近的表现”是他们所有能讨论的东西啦。

[–][BOS] Marcus Smartriders994 84 points 15 hours ago

More like 2 seasons

更像少于两个赛季吧。

[–]SunsBigCountryBumgarner 46 points 15 hours ago

It"s hard to treat things with historical context when they"ve only ever seen LeBron and the Warriors in the finals

他们来说只看过詹姆斯和勇士队打总决赛，你却让他们讨论NBA历史背景，这不故意吊难他们吗。

[–]Clippersss2gohanisgoat 25 points 13 hours ago

I just realized how sad that kind of is.

我才意识到这有多么令人心寒。

[–]LakersComeoncuh 17 points 12 hours ago

It makes me depressed when i hear some people never saw the 2010 finals on here

湖人球迷：当我听到别人说他们从来没看过2010年总决赛的时候，我郁闷极了。

[–]Celtics BandwagonWayne_Spooney 40 points 11 hours ago

It makes me depressed that I saw the 2010 finals.

凯尔特人球迷：更郁闷的知道是什么吗？是我看了那年的总决赛。

[–][CHI] Lawrence FunderburkeSim888 386 points 17 hours ago

slow down a bit.

Fuck that...Full speed ahead!

你让我们轻点吹？

滚边玩去！马力开足使劲吹！

[–]76ersjawntothefuture 38 points 14 hours ago

thank you. you are correct

76人球迷：谢谢你老哥，说得太对了。

[–][PHI] Joel EmbiidVenomyze 207 points 17 hours ago

It"ll slow down. Some people got carried away after his showing last night after not seeing him play for so long

吹捧会逐渐降温的。有些人只不过在那么久没看到恩比德打球之后看到他昨晚的表现而有些飘飘然了。

[–][MIN] Tyus Jonespollinium 97 points 17 hours ago

Luckily it"ll pick right back up tomorrow after playing the Heat

幸运的是，打完热火之后，吹大帝的帖子又要满天飞啦！

[–]HeatDolfanz019 91 points 14 hours ago

Last time Whiteside & Embiid went up against each other:

Whiteside - 32/13/2 blocks on 68% shooting (32 minutes)

Embiid - 22/5/3 blocks on 54% shooting (23 minutes)

Should be exciting to watch

热火球迷：上一次怀特塞德和恩比德对阵：

怀特塞德 – 32分13板2盖帽，投篮命中率68%（上场32分钟）

恩比德 – 22分5板3盖帽，投篮命中率54%（上场23分钟）

嗯，祝你美梦成真。

[–]76ersMattV413 155 points 16 hours ago

reads title

No.

reads rest of post

Ughh fine.

But on a serious note, when he"s on the floor sixers are 15x better compared to when he"s off. Look at his on/off stats, he makes the defense actually good, the offense is better, everything is better every time he"s on the court. He made the fucking sixers look like a playoff team before his injury last year.

看到这个标题的反应：

我不要！

读完了剩下的内容：

额好吧。

但说真的，大帝在场上的时候76人表现得比他下场时好15倍。看看他上场时和不在场时76人的数据吧，他让他们的防守变得非常好，进攻变得更好，他上场之后所有东西都变好了。在他去年受伤之前，他让他娘的76人看起来就像一支季后赛球队。

[–]SpursATXBeermaker 45 points 16 hours ago

But on a serious note, when he"s on the floor sixers are 15x better compared to when he"s off.

Yeah, but his supporting cast was such ass that this would probably be true for many of the top players in the league. Not to mention that Embiid played against very few top defenses/defenders last year and when he did his stats were generally not nearly as other-worldly.

“但说真的，大帝在场上的时候76人表现得比他下场时好15倍。”

楼上说的不错，但你要考虑到恩比德队友是多么垃圾。所以即使把大帝换成其它联盟顶级球员，这句话依旧成立。而且别忘了大帝去年也很少跟顶级防守球队或者防守球员打过，当他遇到顶级防守的时候，他的数据也不像他超神时那样好。

[–]76ersTheProcess12 25 points 15 hours ago

Yes that"s true, but you can even look at last night as an example. We were down by 10 before Embiid came back out and then went on a 27-1 run. Is it because its the Nets? Probably, but I think as we move deep into the season the on/off stats will still favor when he is on the floor

我赞同，但是你可以把昨晚当成例子。在大帝重新上场之前我们落后10分，他一回来76人就打了一波27-1的进攻高潮。难道是因为对手是篮网吗？也许吧，但我觉得当赛季深入之后，76人的数据肯定在他上场时会更好，而不是他坐板凳的时候。

[–]SpursATXBeermaker 12 points 15 hours ago

but I think as we move deep into the season the on/off stats will still favor when he is on the floor

Well, yeah. But like I said, I think that would be true of lots of players in the league.

To be clear, I think Embiid is amazing. I just think that people need to pump the brakes a bit before declaring him the second coming. I get that Sixers fans will find it difficult not to get insanely excited about the guy, but give it time. We"ll see how it all plays out eventually.

“但我觉得当赛季深入之后，76人的数据肯定在他上场时会更好，而不是他坐板凳的时候。”

我同意你的说的。但是我刚说了，即使换成其它联盟顶级球员，这句话还是会成立。

说明一点，我认为恩比德非常惊艳。我只是认为在人们说大帝盛世降临之前还是应该缓一缓。我理解对76人球迷来说让他们别太过激动是非常困难的，但是还是缓一缓，给过程一点时间。我们最终会看到结果是怎么样的。

[–]PistonsCrispyBalooga 68 points 16 hours ago

It"s just remarkable how good he is for the amount of game experience he has. You just don"t see that. That"s an indicator for me of somebody who is in the all-time upper echelon of basketball talent.

对于他仅有的篮球比赛经验来说，打得这么好还是很了不起的。球场经验这种东西你看不出来的。这对我来说指明了他的篮球天赋在历史来看都属于上层梯队的。

[–]76erslardbiscuits 32 points 14 hours ago

I hate the pump the brakes bullshit.

I"ll be the first one to admit I"m a little concerned with Ben and Fultz.

But Embiid? This dude has played like 50 organized games of basketball in his life. He is absolutely transcendent if he"s healthy. This year, if he plays over 60 games, he"s not only ALREADY the best big in the league, but if he continues to be as dominant defensively as he has, then he"s a top five overall player in the league.

I have no qualms saying that. He"s that fucking good. There"s no one who can defend him in the league.

76人球迷：我不喜欢那套“缓一缓”的屁话。

就本-西蒙斯和富尔茨而言，我第一个站出来承认我对他们有点担心的。

但是大帝？这家伙这一辈子也就才打了大概50场正规的篮球赛。当他保持健康的时候，他的天赋绝对是超凡脱俗的。今年，如果他能打超过60场比赛，那他将不会仅仅是联盟已现有的最牛逼的大个子，而且他继续在防守端统治一切的话，那他绝对就是一个联盟前五的球员。

说这话时我良心一点也不会痛。他真TMD的强，联盟里没有人能防得住他。

[–]Warriorshoffmanmclaunsky 32 points 14 hours ago*

The comparison with PG is also a bit silly imo. PG wasn"t a top 3 pick, PG has a completely different skillset and way of taking over a game, PG isn"t the physical specimen that Embiid is (although PG is certainly big and athletic). PG also has a way different personality and relationship with his teammates.

And Embiid has the kind of talent you know isn"t going to be up and down like Paul George. Embiid is a freaking 7"2, 280 lb monster with smooth as hell post and face up moves. Plus he can shoot and knock down FTs.

I don"t know if I"d agree he"s already a top 5 talent when healthy though.

在我看来拿乔治的例子比较显得有点愚蠢，首先PG不是前三顺位，而且PG有着跟恩比德完全不同的技巧去统治比赛，PG也没有恩比德那副上天赐予的身板（虽然PG绝对身材高大且充满运动能力）。PG也有着截然不同的个性，跟队友的关系也和恩比德不一样。

同样你也清楚恩比德的天赋不会像PG那样起伏不定。恩比德是一个身高2米20，体重127公斤的怪物，同时有着丝滑般的背身和面框技术。而且他还能投中篮和罚球。

但我不确定健康的恩比德会不会挤进联盟前五。

[–]76ersLorax1515 47 points 17 hours ago

For what it"s worth, it"s a small minority that think that. Most people will happily point out that he"s only played 31 games and is an injury risk. Most positive Embiid statements are qualified by health, and if not, someone will always point that out.

无论如何，只是一小部分人同意这个观点。大部分人还是会很乐意指出恩比德仅仅打了31场比赛而且有着伤病隐患的事实。大部分关于恩比德的正面评价都是在他健康的前提下符合的，如果评价不符合的话，总会有人指出来的。

[–]RocketschefnoguardD 38 points 17 hours ago

It is not a small minority. Seriously? The Embiid hype on this subreddit is hugely popular

并不是只有一小部分人啊。老哥你认真的吗？在湿乎乎上疯狂吹恩比德可是很受欢迎的。

[–]76ersLorax1515 23 points 16 hours ago

Specifically referring to a small minority prematurely saying he"ll be in the top 5 or best in the east after Lebron. Not the general Embiid hype.

噢，我只是在特指那一小部分过早评价恩比德会统治联盟，成为前五巨星或者詹姆斯之后东部最强，而不是那种一般的恩比德吹。