阿德在马刺打出生涯最佳赛季却被低估,他丝毫不逊于恩比德和唐斯
LaMarcus Aldridge is having the best season of his career at 32 years old and it"s not getting talked about enough
没有被足够重视的事实:拉马库斯-阿尔德里奇今年32岁,但他打出了生涯至今最棒的赛季。
Aldridge is having a career renaissance this season after a (relatively) slow start to his time in San Antonio. This season he"s putting up:
-23.1 ppg (2nd highest average of his career)
-57.0% TS (career high)
-3.3 offensive rebounds per game (career high, 5th in the NBA)
-24.9 PER (career high)
在经历了初到圣安东尼奥的一段(相对于他之前的表现而言的)低迷之后,阿尔德里奇在这赛季宛若重生。本赛季他拿到的数据如下:
-场均得到23.1分(生涯第二高)
-真实投篮命中率57.0%(生涯新高)
-场均3.3个进攻篮板(生涯新高,联盟排名第5)
-效率值24.9(生涯新高)
He"s also been arguably the best defensive player on a top-5 defensive team this season. His horribly injured bare bones team is in fourth place in the West, and it"s largely his doing. Hopefully, he can find his way onto some MVP and All-NBA ballots come voting time.
他也很可能是本赛季联盟前5的防守球队里最棒的防守球员。他所在的这支已经严重伤筋动骨的球队目前排在西部第四,而这主要是他的功劳。但愿他能分得一些MVP票数,也希望他能受最佳阵容的青睐。
[–]oakled 683 指標 8小時前
For a player whose bread and butter is a turnaround fadeaway jumper, he is remarkably efficient.
作为一个招牌动作是转身后仰跳投的球员,阿德的效率真是相当高。
[–]NetsLanaRhoades- 286 指標 8小時前
He is a great free throw shooter for a big
作为一个大个子,他的罚球也很出色。
[–]Timberwolvesgglebron 387 指標 7小時前
He is also very tall for a human.
作为一个人类,他也真的是非常高。
[–]Trail BlazersCostlyAxis 22 指標 7小時前
Until clutch time
开拓者球迷:罚球?请加限定词【非关键时刻】。
[–][SAS] Cherokee Parkspooppantys 20 指標 7小時前
Sorry to hear you"re still salty
马刺球迷:楼上的老哥还酸着呢?为你感到遗憾。
[–]Trail BlazersCostlyAxis 25 指標 7小時前
Not really salty, he’s just not a clutch FT shooter
开拓者球迷:倒也不全是酸啊,阿德是真的不擅长关键时刻的罚球。
[–][MIA] James JohnsonJewRepublican69 252 指標 8小時前*
Unknown Fact: LMA has a speech impediment, you can see him slip up sometimes in interviews. There was this one post game interview where he literally couldn"t talk. MKG also has a stutter and has done a lot for people who have speech impediments in the community.
很少有人知道的事实:阿尔德里奇有语言障碍,在采访中偶尔会体现出来。有一次赛后采访,他几乎没办法说话。迈克尔-基德-吉尔克里斯特也有口吃,他还为社区里有语言障碍的人做了很多贡献。
[–]SpursWhi_Whi 184 指標 8小時前
that"s why he says "you know" a lot instead of stuttering
马刺球迷:这就是为什么阿德总是说“你知道(you know)”来掩饰自己的结巴。
[–][MIA] James JohnsonJewRepublican69 91 指標 8小時前
Yup it sucks, it makes you look stupid and uneducated. I curse a lot with my friends because it helps me string a sentence together but I can"t really do that in everyday interactions.
是啊,这挺倒霉的,会显得自己很蠢而且没文化。(我就是口吃所以)我跟我朋友聊天的时候经常说脏话,因为这么说可以帮助我把句子串在一起。但我也不能每天跟人说话的时候都满嘴脏字啊。
[–][MIA] James JohnsonJewRepublican69 57 指標 8小時前
These two guys are my two favorite non Heat players, it relates to me because I have a severe stutter.
热火球迷:阿尔德里奇和迈克尔-基德-吉尔克里斯特是我最喜欢的两个非热火球员了,这也许是因为我也有很严重的口吃,所以我在他俩身上找到了共鸣。
[–][NYK] Baron Davisthemariokarters 35 指標 8小時前
Oh. That’s nice that you have someone in the league you can relate with then
哇,你能在联盟里找到和自己有共鸣的人,还是挺不错的啊。
[–]YamaJii 66 指標 5小時前
yeah me too I can relate to lebron bc im literally the best at everything I do so thankfully I can relate to him and its nice that kids can too
没错,我也是。我和勒布朗有共鸣,因为事实上我可以把每件事都做到最好,每件事,都,做到,最好!所以我俩确实是有共鸣,希望孩子们也能有这种同感!
[–]RaptorsAbyss333333 222 指標 8小時前
that"s it. give him the MVP
行了,收摊子了,MVP是阿尔德里奇的!
[–]RaptorsJKirbs14 70 指標 8小時前
I’m convinced
我被楼主说服了。
[–]SpursMaradonaGoat 47 指標 7小時前
ALL NBA 2ND team for sure. Otherwise he is robbed
马刺球迷:阿德一定可以入选最佳阵容二阵的,要不就太委屈他了。
[–]JohnMcCainsArms 9 指標 7小時前*
Probably gonna be behind Davis and Embiid.
也许会排在浓眉和恩比德的后面。
[–][SAS] Manu Ginobilithedoming 29 指標 6小時前
Is it controversial to think LMA is having a nicer season than Embiid? If not I think they’re pretty close and can see it going either way. Embiid defense is better than LMA and he’s had an amazing offensive season as well. Thoughts?
马刺球迷:认为阿德本赛季的表现比恩比德更好算是有争议的观点吗?我是觉得他们俩是相当接近的球员,怎样选都没问题。恩比德的防守比阿德更好,而且他这赛季的进攻表现也很亮眼。大家觉得呐?
[–]JohnMcCainsArms 33 指標 6小時前
Yeah, they’re pretty close... But media voting always favors people like Embiid.
是啊,他们确实相当接近。但是媒体投票的时候总是更喜欢恩比德这样的球员。
[–][SAS] Manu Ginobilithedoming 9 指標 6小時前
I guess that makes sense, we"ll see though. If LMA can carry the Spurs to 50 wins (which is still unlikely) I can see that being a very strong narrative over Embiid
马刺球迷:我觉得有点道理,但是还说不准。要是阿德可以扛着马刺拿到50胜(现在看起来这还是不太可能),他的故事就比恩比德的精彩多了。
[–]Lakersrionbull 21 指標 4小時前*
Just to put some stats on this discussion:
LMA
50.9% fg / 83.3% ft
23p/8.4r/2.1a
.5 stls/1.2 blcks/1.5 turnovers
对于这个讨论,咱可以加点数据进来看看:
阿尔德里奇
投篮命中率50.9%/罚球命中率83.3%
场均23分/8.4篮板/2.1助攻/0.5抢断/1.2盖帽/1.5失误
Embiid** I edited this I had incorrect figures
48.3% fg / 76.9% ft
22.9p/11.0r/3.2a
.6 stls/1.8 blcks/3.7 turnovers
恩比德(之前有几个数据敲错了,后面又改了一下)
投篮命中率48.3%/罚球命中率76.9%
场均22.9分/11.0篮板/3.2助攻/0.6抢断/1.8盖帽/3.7失误
Overall
Very similar stats. Team record is within 2 games of each other. Similar position in their respective conferences. Very slight scoring edge to Aldridge (not really in light of correct numbers), light rebounding edge to Embiid (solid 2.5+ more). More blocks/steals/assists for Embiid but more than twice as many turnovers. Really close call I don"t think you could go wrong with either one honestly.
总结一下:
他们俩的数据非常相似,他们所在球队的战绩也相差不到2个胜场,76人和马刺在东西区的排位也差不多。阿尔德里奇在得分上有非常微弱的优势(改正了我的数据后,他的得分优势其实就算不上什么优势了),恩比德则篮板数上更胜一筹(比阿德多了不止2.5啊)。恩比德有更多的盖帽/抢断/助攻,但是他的失误也是阿德的两倍多。他们俩真的太接近了,我真的觉得选谁都是可以的。
[–][SAS] Manu GinobiliCameronman1329 10 指標 6小時前
LeBron, KD, Giannis, AD. Those are the only 4 ahead of him. Embiid ain’t having a better season than him.
马刺球迷:勒布朗、杜兰特、字母哥、浓眉,这四位是我眼里仅有的能排在阿尔德里奇前面的球员。恩比德这赛季的表现并不比阿德更好。
[–]JohnMcCainsArms 3 指標 6小時前
Yeah, but Aldridge is listed as a center this year and the media loves Embiid...And I forgot to mention Towns
没错,但是阿尔德里奇今年的官方位置是中锋,而且媒体更爱恩比德……啊,我忘记了还有唐斯呢。
[–][SAS] Manu GinobiliCameronman1329 18 指標 5小時前*
Aldridge > Towns. Gonna get downvoted but one is playing with a worse supporting cast with 20m+ used on a player who won’t play. The other guy has a great supporting cast. Yet without Butler, Towns is just about keeping Minny in the playoffs despite being far ahead at one point. Aldridge meanwhile is carrying the state of Texas to the playoffs.
马刺球迷回复:阿尔德里奇比唐斯强。估计我会被灭,但是阿德的队友更弱一些,而且马刺这赛季还有一个占着2000万美元薪金空间上不了场的主。在没有巴特勒的情况下,现在的唐斯仅仅能带着森林狼勉强打进季后赛,尽管他们曾一度遥遥领先。而阿德却是硬生生把马刺抗进了季后赛。
Edit: not me criticising Towns but I don’t think people realise how unbelievable it is what LMA is doing. Kawhi last season playing we had a better record... but he still had LaMarcus scoring 17ppg and being a top defender and stopped from Kawhi getting doubled. LaMarcus doesn’t have a 17ppg team mate. He has 8ppg Danny Green and 9ppg Patty Mills. He gets doubled every single time he goes to the post and is still scoring efficiently. He is ridiculous this year.
补充:我不是在批评唐斯,但是我觉得人们没有意识到阿德所做的一切有多么不可思议。上赛季伦纳德上场打球的时候,我刺是有更好的战绩,但那时候阿德场均拿到17分,是顶尖的防守球员,可以防止伦纳德被包夹。阿德现在可没有场均能拿17分的队友啊。他有的是场均8分的丹尼-格林和场均9分的帕蒂-米尔斯。他每次在低位持球都会被包夹,然而他还是能高效地砍分。他今年的表现真的难以置信。
[–]ZandrickEllison 58 指標 8小時前
Better case for 2nd or 3rd All-NBA team than MVP ballots.
阿尔德里奇更可能入选最佳阵容的二阵或者三阵,但是MVP想分到票数不大可能。
[–]WarriorsWakingRage 35 指標 6小時前
I have him as 2nd team.
1st team - Harden, Dame, LBJ, KD, AD
2nd team - Curry, DeMar, LMA, Giannis, Embiid
3rd team - CP3, Westbrook, PG, Butler, KAT
勇士球迷:我选阿德进最佳阵容二阵。
我心中的第一阵容是:哈登、利拉德、詹姆斯、杜兰特、浓眉。
第二阵容是:库里、德罗赞、阿尔德里奇、字母哥、恩比德。
第三阵容是:保罗、威少、泡椒、巴特勒、唐斯。
[–]Lakersmrxanadu818 72 指標 6小時前
PG has been so hit and miss. Honestly, I don"t think he deserves to be on the 3rd team. Put down Oladipo instead for me.
湖人球迷:泡椒这赛季的表现太不稳定了,神一场坑一场。讲真,我觉得他不值得入选最佳阵容三阵。在我看来这个名额应该是奥拉迪波的。
[–]WarriorsWakingRage 23 指標 5小時前
Also a fair point. I completely forgot about Dipo. I agree he should be 3rd team.
I think PG makes a better case for 1st team all defense rather than all nba.
勇士球迷回复:确实是个客观的意见。我都忘了还有奥拉迪波。我也同意他应该入选最佳阵容三阵。我想泡椒可能更应该入选最佳防守阵容一阵,而不是最佳阵容了。
[–]Rocketsnickayoub1171 16 指標 5小時前
Think KD and Curry have both missed too many games to be considered for first and second respectively(maybe applies to CP3 too to be fair) but I"m not sure if games matter as much for all-nba as it does for MVP. Their impact is undeniably all-nba level, but maybe I"d put Giannis on the first just because of how important he has been to the Bucks every night.
我觉得杜库都缺席了太多场比赛,所以杜兰特不太有资格进一阵,库里则不够进二阵(公平起见,也许对于保罗的提名也要考虑到这一点),但是我不确定出场数对于入选最佳阵容的影响会不会像评选MVP那么大。杜兰特和库里的影响力显然是最佳阵容级别的,但是我应该会把字母哥放进一阵,只因为他在每一晚都对雄鹿而言非常重要。
[–]Trail BlazersNoveson 73 指標 8小時前
It"s cause it"s the Spurs and at this point we all feel like it doesn"t matter who they put on the floor they will be good. It might not be fair but in my own head I find myself going "eh, it"s cause he"s on the Spurs" whenever one of their guys is playing really well
阿德这赛季的成绩没有被重视,这可能是因为他在马刺。大家都觉得只要在马刺,不管是谁上场,都能打得挺好。这么说也许有点不太公正,但是当一个马刺球员打出不错的表现的时候,我确实会想“嗯,这是因为他在马刺。”
[–][SAS] Dejounte Murraydicky_________seamus 28 指標 8小時前
I mean, fair. In reality, the Spurs are not immune to being noticeably shittier when their best player is not on the floor.
For example, the Spurs are 2-7 when Aldridge plays fewer than 20 minutes. 2-5 when he doesn"t play at all, and 0-2 when he exits mid-game due to injury.
马刺球迷:没毛病。当最好的球员不在场上的时候,很多球队的水平都会有明显的下降,而事实上马刺也不是对此免疫的。
比如说,在阿尔德里奇上场少于20分钟的比赛里,马刺2胜7负。他完全没出场的比赛是2胜5负,而他由于受伤在中途退场的比赛是0胜2负。
[–]Trail BlazersNoveson 24 指標 7小時前
I mean they actually have been missing their best player this whole season and they still are the 4th seed....
Give that roster to a different organization and I really doubt they make the playoffs
开拓者球迷:我是觉得,在马刺最好的球员整个赛季都没有出战的情况下,马刺还是西部第四,真的是……
要是把这群人放在别的球队里,他们可能连季后赛都进不了。
[–]NBAPM_me_Dope_things 59 指標 8小時前
Have you considered the fact that the spurs are doing this well because of him?
那你没想过,马刺能打得这么好,就是因为有阿尔德里奇在嘛?
[–]Trail BlazersNoveson 21 指標 8小時前
I"m not saying it"s right to feel how I do, just saying that"s why I think his success has been underplayed. You expect Spurs players to overperform.
开拓者球迷:我不是说我感觉的就是对的啦,只是想说这就是我认为的阿德的成绩被低估了的原因。因为大家都觉得马刺球员可以超常发挥。
[–]Trail BlazersBluthsDidNuthinWrong 10 指標 7小時前
Ugh if we still had him though...
Dame/CJ/Aminu/LMA/Nurk is a killer starting lineup
Napier/ET/Moe/Collins/Ed is a pretty good bench too
开拓者球迷:啊,要是阿尔德里奇现在还在我拓的话……
利拉德/麦科勒姆/阿米奴/阿尔德里奇/努尔基奇,这绝对是杀手级别的首发啊。
而且内皮尔/特纳/哈克利斯/科林斯/埃德-戴维斯也是一套相当不错的替补阵容。
[–][SAS] Dejounte Murraydicky_________seamus 15 指標 7小時前
The only teams the Spurs have managed to beat when Aldridge doesn"t play are the Grizzlies and the Suns. In other words, teams that are actively trying to lose.
马刺球迷:在阿德没有上场时,马刺仅能打赢的球队是灰熊和太阳。换句话说,马刺只赢了在努力输球的球队。
Hell, the only teams the Spurs could beat when he scores 15 points or fewer are the Grizzlies (x2), Kings, Suns, Bulls, and Hornets. Also the Nuggets on 1/13, which was the only game in the entire season where everyone was available to play. In games where he scores 15 or fewer, the Spurs are 7-13.
在阿德得到15分或以下的比赛里,马刺赢下的只有灰熊(两次)、国王、太阳、公牛和黄蜂,还有(美国当地时间)1月13号打掘金的那场,而那次是整个赛季里唯一一场马刺全员出战的比赛。在这些阿德拿到15或更少的得分的比赛里,马刺7胜13负。
It is disingenuous to assert that Aldridge has less to do with the Spurs" record than the coaching staff.
要是说阿德对于球队战绩的贡献比教练组少的话,那真的是天大的谎话。
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