球员裁判沟通会只有一哥丁威迪，美JRs：不想听球员抱怨球员裁判沟通会只有一哥和丁威迪到场

球员裁判沟通会只有一哥和丁威迪到场，美JRs：再不想听球员抱怨了

(ESPN) During all-star break, players were invited to air out their grievances with officials. Only 2 guys showed up, Andre Igoudala and Spencer Dinwiddie.

全明星休赛期间，联盟召开会议，邀请裁判和球员们出席，球员在会上可以抒发开赛以来对裁判的不满。然而只有两人到场——伊戈达拉和丁威迪。

[–][BKN] Jarrett AllenExpulsure 248 指標 9小時前

You fucking bet Spencer would be there, he’s sick of this shit lmao

你们特么的用屁股也想得到丁威迪会出席啊，他早就对裁判不满了哈哈哈哈。[译注1]

[译注1]在1月7日篮网85-87惜败凯尔特人的比赛赛后，丁威迪接受采访时用大段的言论表达了对裁判判罚的不满。

[–][BOS] Kyrie Irvinggoofygoober2 1927 指標 9小時前

Dinwiddie let them hear it

丁威迪，让裁判听到你的呼声！

[–]KnicksSmalllyBiggs 1416 指標 9小時前*

Just Spencer Dinwiddie screaming at the officials for a straight hour while Iggy crosses his python arms and nods in the background.

想象一下这场面：丁威迪一个人孤零零地对着裁判们吼了一个小时，而伊戈达拉却在他背后叉着手不住地点头。

[–]Celticssahsan10 305 指標 9小時前

This is totally what I expect

这就是我脑子里的画面。

[–]RaferBalston 78 指標 6小時前

Nah iggy"d be doin his "i didnt do it" face since it"s been burned into refs heads

不不不，伊戈达拉还是会摆出一副“我啥事儿都没干啊”的表情，因为裁判们对这一幕实在太熟悉了。

[–]CelticsMadTrick978 709 指標 9小時前

I heard he kicked open the door and said "I may be Dinwiddie, but ya"ll are a bunch of dim witties" and then the refs all vowed to change.

我仿佛听到了丁威迪一脚把门踹开，大喊：“老子是丁威迪，你们这群大傻X！”[译注2]，裁判们羞愧不已，纷纷发誓会做出改变。

[译注2]dimwitties与Dinwiddie发音相近。

[–]BullsSDMGLife 150 指標 6小時前

Refs meeting with Dinwiddie was “intense” and “at one point Ken Mauer was crying” but everyone grew closer and a big lesson was learned

裁判们与丁威迪的会谈十分激烈，肯-毛尔[译注3]一度失声痛哭，不过会后丁威迪与裁判之间的关系有所缓和，每一个人都得到了一个重要的教训。[译注4]

[译注3]肯-毛尔是一名NBA裁判，其生涯“代表作”发生在2011年1月12日的比赛中。森林狼在10秒钟内连续吃到了5次技术犯规，吉诺比利凭借这几次罚球帮助马刺反超比分，最终马刺以107比96战胜了森林狼。

[译注4]2016年休赛季，当时的自由球员杜兰特与快船进行了长达四个小时的会谈，快船老板史蒂夫-鲍尔默也参与其中。据报道，会谈场面十分“激烈”，鲍尔默在会谈中“一度痛哭流涕”。这成为reddit当时一个热门的梗。后来被证实为假新闻（自然啦）。

[–]CavaliersPedosoKJ 1163 指標 9小時前

Thats a shame, I thought there would be tons of players there.

可惜了，我还以为会有一堆球员到场呢。

[–]RzaNotNice 767 指標 9小時前

This is their vacation time, who wants to deal with this bullshit then?

全明星期间球员们休假都来不及，谁会无聊到浪费时间出席这种狗屁场合？

[–]Wizardskubideh_kaczynski 398 指標 9小時前

when else would they have it besides players’ vacation time? cut training camp short and schedule something then?

那除了球员的假期，还有什么时候适合召开这样的会议呢？缩短训练营时间来筹备吗？

[–][LAL] Jose Calderonvictor396 211 指標 8小時前

Some people make plans with their families which they barely see during the year around this weekend; not only with their wife and children but parents and brothers who may have a bit more trouble readjusting to an nba player schedule too. Set the date in the off season when they can work around it or plan it more in advance and more people may show up.

全明星周末这几天，因为平时很难见得到家人，所以许多球员打算和家人一起度过，不单是陪自己的妻儿，还有父母和兄弟。对这些赛程已经规划好了的NBA球员来说，要重新挤时间陪伴家人是一件比较困难的事。联盟要么把这种会议安排在休赛期，让球员有规划的余地，要么提前告知球员有安排这样的会议。这样才会有更多的球员出席。

[–]Wizardskubideh_kaczynski 329 指標 8小時前

nah i’m not buying any excuses. this was in LOS ANGELES during ALL STAR WEEKEND. plenty of players were around, with and without official business. you can take your nose out of a D-List actress’s butthole for 45 minutes to talk shop

我可不这么觉得。这可是在洛杉矶举行的全明星周末啊。众多球员云集在此，有人带着公事要办，有人一身轻松。你为什么就不能从某个十八线小演员身上下来休息45分钟，穿上衣服参加一下联盟举行的会议？

[–][LAL] Jose Calderonvictor396 145 指標 8小時前

Medium to Star level players are most likely booked for the entire weekend (months in advance they have contracts signed to show up in events) or in vacation (was it Deandre a couple of years ago the one who said that he almost declined the all star nod because he had already made plans with his family before even knowing if he would be given the nod or not?) and low level are more likely on vacation or don"t consider they have enough of a voice.

在全明星周末期间，中等到明星级别的球员要么档期几乎排满（提前数月已经签好合约要出席若干活动），要么安心休假（有个球员几年前被选为全明星，但是差点推掉了，原因是他没想到自己能当选全明星，已经提前和家人规划好了假期的活动。这人是小乔丹还是谁来着？）；而咖位不高的球员更可能选择休假，况且他们的声音分量不够，很难产生影响力。

I"m just saying that looking at this from another perspective and playing devil"s advocate it"s a classic anti union move. My mother used to work for one and depending on the situation you try to put a reunion date when you know people are most likely to make a no show so you can blame them for not caring enough to appear.

我只是站在不同的角度看这个问题。在我看来这是典型的联盟制约球员工会的一项举措。我妈工作时就曾经干过这种事：故意挑一个大家明显不会出席的日子安排一个聚会，这样你就可以指责他们这种不重视组织的行为（以求占据某种优势）。

[–][LAC] Quentin RichardsonVballa101 63 指標 6小時前

If players want to complain publicly about how the communication between players and refs is terrible and that there needs to be a change, an offer for them to meet with the refs to discuss that exact issue really shouldn"t need to be mandatory to get them to show up.

如果球员想要在公开场合控诉，说他们与裁判之间的沟通情况非常糟糕，抱怨联盟必须要做出一些改变，那联盟召开一个讨论此事的会议还需要强制他们参加吗？不是应该争破头去吗?

[–][PHI] Tony WrotenDariosDentist 103 指標 9小時前

It"s the reason why election days should be a holiday. Why do we need a day to remember past presidents when we don"t have a day to elect our next president?

这也是选举日应该放假的原因啊。为了让我们纪念往届的总统可以放一天假，到了选新任总统的时候为什么不给我们一天的时间来考虑？

[–]Cavaliersgregosaurusrex 50 指標 7小時前

You know why.

原因你懂的。

[–][HOU] Matt MaloneyTotallyLegit_User 130 指標 6小時前

because they don"t want you to vote

因为他们不指望你去投票啊。

[–][LAL] Kobe BryantBagelBites619 436 指標 9小時前

Can"t watch right now. Is he giving the players shit for not showing up, but still complaining? Sounds fair to me, if so.

没看原视频，萧华是在指桑骂槐说那些球员只会抱怨但却没出席会议吗？要真是这样，我觉得没啥毛病。

[–]Pistonsjohnazoidberg- 192 指標 6小時前

Seriously, you had a chance to actually make some progress and criticize the officiating without the fines - show up or shut up

说真的，现在你有机会前进一步，批评某些裁判的判罚，而且还不会遭到罚款——你要么就出席会议痛快发泄，要么以后就闭嘴。

[–]SupersonicsPhudiMar 80 指標 6小時前

Yea at the very least the President of the Player"s Union should have been there.

没错，这样的会议，至少球员工会主席应该出席吧。

[–]Pistonsjohnazoidberg- 39 指標 6小時前

Plot twist: One of the 2 players whomst attended is a VP of the players association

情节发生转折：出席的两位球员中，就有一位是球员工会副主席（伊戈达拉）。

[–]SpursNeutral_Meat 58 指標 6小時前

Plot twister: Half the NBA is a VP of the players association

情节再次发生转折：NBA球员里有一半都是球员工会副主席，TX。[译注5]

[译注5]吐槽NBA球员工会副主席太多。

[–][NYK] Larry Hughesleesanity7 634 指標 9小時前

Can’t just complain when you can’t even take 30 minutes out of your time to discuss how the other side sees it.

Pretty disappointing to hear this. On the other hand, I love Dinwiddie even more.

联盟这么多球员，真的都抽不出哪怕30分钟去和裁判一方谈谈，听听人家的看法？真的无力吐槽。

听到这条消息真的很失望。不过我对丁威迪是越来越喜欢了。

[–]LakersJust_Chiming_In_Here 164 指標 9小時前

Was the meeting in LA? Cause if so, apart from the all stars themselves - a lot of the players live in LA. They were given a forum and didn’t take advantage of it at all

这次会议地点在洛杉矶吗？要是在的话，除了入选全明星赛的球员之外，还有很多住在洛杉矶的球员啊。联盟已经为球员和裁判提供了一个沟通的场所，但球员们完全没有好好利用。

[–][NYK] Larry Hughesleesanity7 237 指標 9小時前

More disappointed at the all-stars, because these guys are the ones who complain the most.

我更多地是对全明星球员们感到失望，因为抱怨裁判的基本上是他们啊。

[–][GSW] Klay Thompson250gpfan 42 指標 8小時前

Some of them are. IT would have been good to deignate a player from each team to show and voice the concerns but they didn"t even do that. That said I think going forward the refs will care more about Dinwiddie and Iggy just because of that effort to show and trying to smooth things out and remove miscommunication.

一些而已，也不能说基本上是他们在抱怨裁判。要是当初联盟从每个球队选派了代表来参加这次会议来进行发声的话就好了，但是甚至连每个球队出一个人都做不到。

不过，我觉得，从此以后裁判们会对丁威迪和伊戈达拉更照顾一些，因为他们俩抽时间出席了会议，有在努力去缓和球员和裁判的关系，并消除彼此之间的一些误解。

[–]SpursJacksFilmsJacksFilms 66 指標 9小時前

Respect to Iggy and Spencer. At least they went and talked to the refs

向伊戈达拉和丁威迪表示敬意。至少他俩出席了会议，与裁判们进行了沟通。

[–]Spursraymondl942 121 指標 8小時前

Ok I don"t wanna be hearing all the complaining to the refs if you can"t even be bothered to show up to this meeting

好啊，既然你们连与裁判沟通的会议都不愿意出席，那我以后也不想再听见你们抱怨裁判的言论了。

[–]CelticsPepeSylvia11 36 指標 8小時前

Actually, ironically, them not showing up to the meeting is a sly way for them to continue complaining to the refs. Maybe they didn"t want to compromise because they liked bitching too much, and found that it generally worked.

其实，球员们拒绝出席会议本身也是一种暗中表达对裁判不满的方式。也许球员们不愿意妥协是因为他们喜欢抱怨这抱怨那，还觉得这样挺管用，TX。

Finding a middle ground and talking it out would make their complaining on the court in the second half of the season more noticeable. To the refs that is.

如果这帮球员能参加会议，与裁判达成一定共识，达成有效沟通的话，那他们下半个赛季（全明星后）再抱怨的话，裁判也会格外注意，做出更加谨慎的判罚。

[–]Wizardskubideh_kaczynski 789 指標 9小時前

the refs are bad but if the players are gonna do all of this bitching and moaning and then not take the opportunity to hash things out face to face.... that’s pretty pathetic

裁判有时候确实很烂，但球员们抱怨裁判的时候一个顶俩，现在有了面对面沟通解决问题的机会，却不愿意把握…真是悲哀啊。

[–]sheeshman 27 指標 7小時前

How much notice were they given? Did they make plans with the nbapa? Was this NBA sanctioned? Would any changes come from this meeting?

这次会议有提前通知吗？提前了多少天通知？联盟召开会议前和球员工会打了招呼吗？这次会议是联盟批准的吗？会开完之后，裁判会做出什么改变吗？

We don"t know the answers to these questions but they are important, the biggest being, would the refs be able to make any changes after this meeting. If not, make a better plan in the off season. Let the players association meet together and have it be a structured conversation.

我们都不得而知，但这些问题很重要，最重要的是：开完会之后，裁判们的吹罚会不会有任何的改进？要是没有，这个休赛期得想一个更好的方案来解决这个问题。让球员工会也一起参与会议吧，这样的交流对话才有建设性啊。

[–]NBAMintastic 58 指標 6小時前

Even we"ve known about this meeting months in advance with posts here. I think most players just don"t care enough about it compared to getting their much needed vacation.

就连咱话题区的JR们都几个月前就知道要开这个会了啊（通过各种帖子中转载的新闻），我还是觉得大部分球员都更看重他们的假期，没有那么在意这个判罚问题。

[–]CavaliersB*河蟹*inRageValley 227 指標 9小時前

Kinda sad the leaders of the Players union didn"t show up. How are the refs supposed to take their grievances seriously ?

球员工会的领导层没有出席，这挺不好啊。那裁判还有什么理由认真对待他们的抱怨呢？

[–]glumbum2 118 指標 8小時前

There"s at least 15-20 players who really should have been there, both from a leadership perspective within the league (guys like lebron and chris paul) and people who complain about shit all the time (blake griffin and james "adolf" harden)

应该出席会议的球员至少有15-20名，包括球员中的领袖级人物（比如詹姆斯和保罗）和经常抱怨裁判的球员（比如格里芬和詹姆斯-“希特勒”-哈登）。[译注6]

[译注6]希特勒是哈登在reddit的外号之一。起源于前几年哈登在reddit被黑的太惨，后来物极必反，大家就开玩笑说看哈登被黑的惨状还以为他是穷凶极恶的希特勒呢。

[–]76ersBloodBath718 142 指標 7小時前

Nah I think Hardens cool with the refs lol

不不不，我觉得哈登和裁判的关系挺好的哈哈哈哈。

[–]Raptorsone-eleven 166 指標 6小時前

Harden showing up to the meeting like

哈登出席会议时估计会是这模样。