雷霆进攻慢热但防守联盟第一，队中三人可能入选防守一阵？乐福知耻后勇连续53场两双！张伯伦：我

雷霆进攻慢热但防守联盟第一，队中三人可能入选防守一阵？

The OKC Thunder are now the #1 defence in the league, with a DRTG of 100.8

目前，俄克拉荷马城雷霆防守排名联盟第1，防守效率值为100.8。

[–]Pelicansafriendlyspider 550 指標 9小時前

Must be nice

鹈鹕球迷：有防守的感觉一定很好吧。

[–]PelicansGood_NewsEveryone 335 指標 9小時前

Tbf, their offense sucks almost as much as our defense.

鹈鹕球迷：公平地讲，雷霆的进攻几乎和我们的防守一样稀烂。

[–][BOS] Kevin GarnettMarkHoppusJr 221 指標 8小時前

Your teams should fusion dance and become the best team ever. Dubs in 5 tho.

你们两队应该攒成一支，就变成史上最强的球队了。不过遇上勇士估计还是被1：4带走的节奏。

[–]KnicksRagnar_OK 123 指標 7小時前

Westbrook, Jrue, PG, AD, Cousins/Adams, with Rondo, Melo, PPat, Roberson off the bench? They could give GSW a run for their money.

威少，朱-霍勒迪，保罗-乔治，安东尼-戴维斯，考辛斯或者亚当斯，再加上隆多、安东尼、帕特里克-帕特森、罗伯森构成的替补阵容？跟勇士可以拼一拼。

[–]Thundervdubbzxii 171 指標 7小時前

Yo P, they want me to come of the bench!

雷霆球迷：诶，乔治，他们想让我打替补诶。[译注1]

[译注1]：在今年雷霆队训练营的记者会上，有记者问道安东尼打替补的可能性，安东尼回应称：“谁？我？我不知道这种说法怎么来的。嘿，保罗，他们说我要打替补了。”（Who me? I don"t know where that started where that came from. Hey P, they said I gotta come off bench.）

[–]RaptorsRandyMFromSP 92 指標 7小時前

Melo would rather start in the G-League.

让甜瓜打替补？那他宁愿到发展联盟去打首发。

[–]NBAzxc123zxc123 70 指標 5小時前

Starting for a good team > starting for a bad team > starting for G league > Bench > retirement > getting on the banana boat > starting for Phil Jackson

以下处境排名分先后：

在一支强队打首发；

在一支烂队打首发；

在发展联盟打首发；

打替补；

退役；

上香蕉船；（詹韦炮瓜和韦德妻子出去游玩的那次，甜瓜拒绝上香蕉船，害怕）

在禅师手下首发。

[–]Statshelp_TA 162 指標 9小時前

I looked up the defensive rating rankings from 10 years ago thinking that this would be middle of the road because of how good offenses have gotten recently, but to my surprise this would be the 2nd best in the league in 07/08. Only team better was the Celtics with their 98.9 DRTG.

我查阅了下10年前的防守效率排名，开始我觉得雷霆队的这个数据会处于中游吧，因为近段时间联盟的进攻比以往有所进步嘛，但是出人意料的是，他们会排在2007-08赛季联盟中的第2位。只有一支球队比他们还强，凯尔特人，防守效率值为98.9。[译注2]

[译注2]：防守效率值，为每100回合对手所得分数。

[–]OKC Hornetsjocro 64 指標 7小時前*

What"s weird is the main historical trend driving an increase in ORTG over time (more threes) isn"t even one we"re bucking: opposing teams shoot the seventh most threes (per possession) in the league.

雷霆球迷：比较奇怪的，使近些年来NBA球队防守效率值攀高的联盟整体趋势（三分投的越来越多）并没有对我雷放松，因为我雷的对手每回合三分出手数还是很多啊，排联盟第七。

Driving force has been turnover creation, and the Thunder"s rate of produced turnovers (18.4% of opponent possessions) is first this year by a margin of 1.4% over second place, and would be first in 07-08 by a margin of 0.9%. Nontrivial differences when you usually see about a 2% gap between an above average -> best in league team in that stat."

雷霆队的防守之本是制造失误，这一点上他们制造失误的比率（对手回合数中的18.4%）本赛季排名联盟第1，领先第2名1.4%，这项数据在2007-08赛季排名第1，领先第2名0.9%。在这项数据上，通常当你看到联盟平均水准与联盟最佳之间相差2%时，就已经算是巨大差异了。

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrookthekaoswithin[S] 143 指標 9小時前

In a league where so much offence comes from wing players, having 2 all nba level defenders is a huge advantage. Star wings get no respite for 48 minutes alternating between Paul George and Roberson.

That"s also allowed Westbrook and PG to maximize their ability to jump the passing lanes, since the defence is so suffocating. That has led them to being top 2 in steals currently.

雷霆球迷：当你处于一个进攻由侧翼球员主导的时代时，拥有两名联盟最佳阵容级别的防守人对球队而言会是个巨大的优势。在保罗-乔治和罗伯森整场比赛的车轮大战下，对方的明星侧翼得不到任何喘息的机会。

因为球队的防守强度很大（从而逼迫对手犯错），也使得威斯布鲁克和保罗-乔治能最大限度的发挥他们切断对方传球路线的能力。这让他们目前位列抢断榜的前2名。

[–][OKC] Chucky AtkinsSPAGHETTI_CAKE 38 指標 8小時前

It"s really a great system. The Don and the rest if the coaching staff have done a great job with the defense even though we have great personnel

雷霆球迷：这真的是套不错的体系。尽管我们有着不错的配置，不过多诺万和其他教练组成的制服组也确实干得不错啊。

[–]OKC Hornetsjocro 41 指標 8小時前

Teams won"t miss wide open shots like the Jazz did last night, but the turnover creation has been pretty incredible to start the year. Adams has been an absolute rock in the middle, which means one out of the three of Russ/Robes/George can play free safety pretty regularly. And even if they get beat there"s enough length and athleticism to recover against most anybody.

Huge props to Melo for this though: he"s in no way the driving factor but if you had to point at someone in the starting lineup who may cause problems, it"s either him or Russ. And Melo has been real solid.

雷霆球迷：其他球队应该不会像昨晚爵士队那样投失空位投篮的，但是本赛季球队在制造对方失误这方面的表现真是让人意外。亚当斯已经完全成为球队的防守中坚，这意味着威少、罗伯森和保罗-乔治3人中的1人可以经常出任自由卫进行协防。而且哪怕他们的防守被打乱，他们还有足够的高度和运动能力来补防，阻止大部分球员

不过对此要向安东尼致以敬意：他绝不是这套体系的关键因素，但是如果你非得指出首发中谁可能在防守端出现问题的话，不是他就是威少。而安东尼真的已经表现得很可靠了。

[–]Thunderj_good03 7 指標 6小時前

Add in Patterson or Grant for Melo and the defense gets even filthier.

雷霆球迷：场上阵容如果是帕特森或者格兰特换下甜瓜的话，那防守强度更上一层楼啊。

[–]OKC Hornetsjocro 13 指標 6小時前

Yeah grant himself has been monstrous in the paint.

雷霆球迷：是啊，格兰特在禁区内的发挥很可怕啊。

[–]NBADontTouchMyRaf 249 指標 9小時前

I predicted this at the start of the season. They have atleast 3 guys who are deserving of first team all defense this season. PG, Roberson, and Adams

我在赛季开始的时候预测过这点。他们拥有至少3名值得入选本赛季联盟最佳防守阵容一阵的球员。保罗-乔治，罗伯森，还有亚当斯。

[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookNobodyRules 142 指標 9小時前

It wouldn’t surprise me if the 3 of them were in the first team, they’ve been immense. I knew PG was elite but goddamn watching him night in and night out is fantastic, he’s just unreal on defense.

雷霆球迷：要是他们仨都能入选，我可不会感到惊讶哦，他们已经是非常出色的防守球员了。我知道乔治是精英级别的，但是每晚都能看到他为我们效力的感觉还是太神奇了，他在防守端的表现真不可思议。

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrookthekaoswithin[S] 33 指標 9小時前

I"d Guess Robes 1st team, Adams and PG 2nd team

雷霆球迷：我猜罗伯森会进一阵，亚当斯和保罗-乔治入选二阵。

[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookNobodyRules 136 指標 9小時前

PG has to be 1st team

雷霆球迷：保罗-乔治一定会进一阵的。

[–]ThunderBrotherSeamus 64 指標 7小時前

I think George has a legit shot at DPOY unless Draymond steps it up.

雷霆球迷：我觉得除非德雷蒙德-格林较上赛季更有进步，否则乔治很有机会拿下年度防守球员。

[–][GSW] Andre Iguodalaelektritekt 6 指標 7小時前

Won"t he have to compete with Kahwi, Draymond, Gobert (and possibly Durant) for those spots? Or is All-defensive position-agnostic?

难道说他不需要在防守一阵的评选中和伦纳德，德雷蒙德-格林，戈贝尔（还有可能是杜兰特）竞争么？还是说最佳防守阵容是不分位置票选的？

[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookNobodyRules 43 指標 7小時前

Kawhi won’t play enough games, Draymond isn’t at his usual level and Gobert won’t play enough games too. I think PG is a frontrunner as of now. It’s not position less, there’s 2 guards, 2 forwards and a Center.

雷霆球迷：伦纳德的出场时间不够，格林没有达到他的正常水准，戈贝尔的出场次数也不够。我觉得现在保罗-乔治是这项的领跑者。其次，位置这个不是问题，最佳阵容包括2名后卫，2名锋线和1名中锋。

[–]KnicksBToast 162 指標 9小時前

They also caught up to Portland in regards of seeding.

Not sure why everyone loves to shit on OKC slow start after a massive roster change

尼克斯球迷：雷霆现在也快追赶上开拓者的西部排位了。

雷霆这赛季阵容可是巨变啊，慢热也是说得通的，不知道为什么大家黑雷霆黑的那么起劲。

[–][NYK] Kristaps PorzingisSol_Weintraub 123 指標 8小時前

people are used to instant gratification and dont get that it takes a lot of time to build chemistry and mesh. shits dumb mang

尼克斯球迷：人们习惯于立刻被满足，却不明白球队需要大量的时间来建立化学反应与默契。黑子太蠢了。

[–]ThunderHobbes_is_Real 73 指標 6小時前

I just wanna say I have loved Knicks fans during the anti-OKC circlejerking. Most have been super supportive and outspoken about how irrational it all is.

雷霆球迷：我只想说，在一轮轮的屠雷大会上，我已经爱上尼克斯球迷了。他们大部分人都非常支持我们，直言不讳地指出那些批评我们的声音有多不合理。

[–][OKC] Chucky AtkinsSPAGHETTI_CAKE 53 指標 6小時前

Knicks and thunder are bros

雷霆球迷：尼克斯雷霆一家亲。

[–]ThunderNelfoos5 35 指標 7小時前*

Cos they look for an excuse to dislike Russ. Those reasons have been there, but I"ve been mocked for saying that it"s going to come right at some point.

We"re now 5th, and we"re only going to get better.

雷霆球迷：那是因为那些黑子不过是在找一个不喜欢威少的借口罢了。球队开赛后状态不好的原因就在那儿摆着，但是我却会因为说“嗨，这些总会过去的，会没事儿的”而被冷嘲热讽。

现在我们西部第5了，而我们只会变得更好。

[–]Noveltypocket 137 指標 9小時前

6th seed and climbing. we"ll be hell for whoever we play in the playoffs.

雷霆球迷：西部第6了，战绩还在上升。无论季后赛碰谁，我们都会成为对方的噩梦的。

[–][NYK] Pablo PrigioniCopenhagenCalling 15 指標 9小時前

Kinda crazy that they have such a relative poor record. A decent offense and people would take them seriously as contenders. If they can fix it come playoff time they would be a dark horse to beat some of the higher seeded teams. At least a better chance than some of the other lower seeded teams in recent years.

这么一看，雷霆队的战绩对比之下可有点儿差啊，真奇怪。要是球队和球员的进攻能打好的话，他们绝对是总冠军的有力竞争者。如果能在季后赛的时候搞定这点，他们会成为下克上的一匹黑马的。至少比近几年其它的低位种子队要更有机会。

[–][DAL] Nick Van Exelnatedeezy_3 41 指標 8小時前

I don’t care how bad they’ve been. As long as their defense remains elite, they’ll have a chance in every game they play. Even into the post season, when defense will be eve better since they’ll be able to gameplan

我不在乎他们的进攻有多烂。只要防守端能保持这种精英水准，雷霆队就能在在每场比赛中保有取胜的机会。到了季后赛更是如此，因为他们会有针对某一特定对手的周密的部署，届时防守会比现在的还要好。

[–]KnicksThePassionOfKristaps 37 指標 9小時前

Defence wins championshipsTs and Cs apply

尼克斯球迷：防守赢得总冠军（雷霆和凯尔特人符合哦）。

[–][IND] Dale Davisorrrderup 12 指標 5小時前

This is how you get Paul George to stay. He was not happy when Indy tried moving to a faster paced, offense-first approach. He"s always been nostalgic for those top ranked defensive teams he was on in the early 2010"s.

步行者球迷：这应该是你们留下保罗-乔治的方法吧。那时，步行者队提速，变成进攻第一的球队，保罗-乔治对此不太开心。他总是怀念2010年后的最初那几年所处的，那支防守凶悍的步行者