对比库里和伯德的三分，美国球迷：伯德是现象级的中距离投手 Interesting stat: Larry Bird made 64

Interesting stat: Larry Bird made 649 3-pointers in his entire career, Steph Curry made 688 threes in just 2015 and 2016 alone

分享一个有趣的数据：拉里-伯德整个职业生涯投进了649个三分，斯蒂芬-库里单单在2015和2016赛季就投进了688个三分。

Bird has been quoted talking about Curry saying,

伯德本人就曾经就此评论过库里：

“For deep range, I don’t know if there’s anybody better. What a weapon a shooter like Curry is that with the green light (from his coach) missing one or two means nothing to him. He just goes back deeper. He can make you look bad in a hurry. This kid’s got to go down in history as one of the greatest shooters who ever played our game.”

“就远距离投篮来说，我不知道是否有人能比库里更优秀。库里这种级别的射手，只要有（得到教练允许）无限开火权，投丢一个两个完全无所谓。他只会一直投，不断从更远的地方开火。他可以让防守者在一瞬间颜面无存。这小子退役之时肯定会被作为NBA有史以来最伟大的投手之一被世人铭记。”

For most anyone in the NBA, a half court pull-up three is a terrible shot, but for Steph it’s within his range. It’s amazing how time changes the game of basketball, we are witnessing history here.

对于NBA里的大部分人来说，半场干拔三分是一个很糟糕的投篮选择，但是对于库里来说，那属于他的射程范围内。随着时间的进程，篮球比赛也在不断地被改变，这实在令人惊叹，现在的我们可是在见证历史啊。

Edit: It’s obvious these two guys played in very different eras of basketball, but I think more than anything this statistic emphasizes how much the 3-point shot has evolved over time. The fact that players today attempt so many threes has changed everything about the game from offense to defense. Steph has changed the way teams approach their shooting, and we’ve seen a huge increase in attempted threes in the past decade or so.

Edit again: people didn’t like my Skyfucker hyperbole

编辑：很明显伯德和库里处在篮球的不同时代，但是我觉得比这组数据更重要的地方是它强调了三分投射随着时间的演变。如今的球员出手很多三分，这完全改变了篮球，不论是在进攻端还是防守端都是一样。库里改变了联盟中的球队利用投射的方式，而且我们也见证了过去十多年来三分出手次数的大量增加。

再次编辑：看来大家并不是很买账我对库日天的夸大其词啊。

[–]KnicksBrexitisfun67 758 指標 13小時前

I do find it interesting my dad used to tell me when I was young Larry Bird was the greatest shooter he’s ever seen, to now when you have A player like Curry who matched most NBA players in the 80s 3PM in two seasons. Like what will we be telling our kids will there ever be a better shooter than Steph making 800 3s in the span of two seasons lol

尼克斯球迷：挺有意思的，我爸在我小的时候告诉我说拉里-伯德是他见过最伟大的投手，而如今联盟里有像库里这样的球员，一个人花两个赛季就能投进当时大部分球员整个80年代才能投进的三分球。咱们以后跟自己的孩子咋吹库里啊，以后还会出现一个比两个赛季就投进800个三分的库里更加牛逼的投手吗？

[–]Celticsjaylen_browns_beard 796 指標 13小時前

In all fairness, Larry was a phenomenal mid range shooter and that was how he dominated

凯尔特人球迷：平心而论，伯德是个现象级的中距离投手，这也是他当时如何统治联盟的。

[–]CelticsEG14000000 382 指標 13小時前

Did a lot of work in the paint too. Post ups, Putbacks, crafty finishes, etc

凯尔特人球迷：而且他在内线里也是没少出汗：背打，补篮，各种巧妙的上篮等等。

[–]TimberwolvesMillionmario 165 指標 11小時前

My dad is 6"6 and he would show me those moves in the driveway - good times :)

森林狼球迷：我爸大概有198公分高，他以前时不时会在家门口停车道上给我展现伯德的那些绝招。哎，真是美好的时光啊。

[–]edwardsamson 79 指標 10小時前

I think you can just use "did a lot of work" to describe pretty much everything about Larry. Dude put in a lot work in all aspects of the game both in actual games and in practice/training and even in his real life. Its the farmer boy in him.

我觉得你可以用“没少出汗”来形容伯德的一切。他在篮球的几乎每个方方面面都下足了功夫，不论是在实际比赛时还是训练时，甚至在实际生活中他也是一样。他骨子里的农民性格造就了他啊。

[–][NYK] Patrick Ewingkill3r7 103 指標 12小時前

The 1986-1987 Celtics - 405 3PA converted 124 3P.

The 2017-2018 Warriors - 2392 3PA converted 853 3P.

It"s just a different game today.

尼克斯球迷：1986-1987赛季的凯尔特人：405次三分出手，124次三分命中。

2017-2018赛季的勇士：2392次三分出手，853次三分命中。

如今的比赛风格和以前大不同了而已。

[–]RaptorsABJZ 117 指標 13小時前

there was a big change in larry"s time, because the 3 point line was still relatively new, and players from decades ago didn"t spend their whole lives honing their ability from that range. Steph can"t be surpassed as a shooter I don"t think.

猛龙球迷：要知道当时对于伯德他们时代可是发生了重大的变化，因为三分线相对来说还是比较新颖的概念，而且上古时代的那些球员也没有花费他们一生的时间去打磨三分球技术。库里这样水平的射手，我认为未来很难会有人能超越他。

I feel like he can only be realistically matched, unless basketball goes through a radical change like they did with the 3 point line. If the line gets moved back, or if we get a 4 point line (please don"t) then someone will probably pass steph, but otherwise probably not.

最贴近现实的情况也只是库里能被以后的球员追赶上。除非篮球发生了巨变，比如当时增加三分线这一决定。假设三分线被缩短，又或者整了条四分线（千万别），那么可能就会有某个球员超越库里，除此之外，应该没啥可能了。

[–]Celticscabose12 167 指標 12小時前

The 3 point line is introduced in 1979

Curry had 501 3pa this year. For 6 seasons, from 1979 to 1985, no team had more than that. In the 86-87 season, only four teams had more 3 point attempts than Curry alone.

It really is a change in the era, the same way we don"t see 30 rebound games anymore

凯尔特人球迷：三分线是在1979年被引进比赛中的。

库里今年投了501次三分球。而从1979年到1985年，整整六个赛季，没有一支球队有出手这么多次。到了1986-1987赛季，也就只有四支球队比库里一个人的三分出手次数更多。

这的确是时代的变革，就好像如今我们很难再见到一场30个篮板一样。

[–]RaptorsABJZ 279 指標 13小時前

you"ve got to put that in perspective though. "adjust for inflation" so to speak.

你得更全面地比较，好让大家更好理解啊。比如说“根据通货膨胀进行调整"。

[–]HornetsClaudeLemieux 381 指標 13小時前

1$ in 1985 (roughly midpoint of Birds career) is 2.33 today. So Bird"s 2018 3pter haul is actually 1512.

黄蜂球迷：我来吧。1985年（大概在伯德职业生涯的中期）的1美金放到今天是2.33美金，所以伯德在2018年的职业生涯三分总数应该是1512个。

[–][CHA] Malik MonkBizGilwalker 76 指標 12小時前

Even that would only rank 29th all time lol. Klay Thompson already has more than that and he"s been in the league seven years.

黄蜂球迷：就算是你这么乘，伯德的三分总数也只能排在历史榜第二十九位啊哈哈哈。克莱的三分命中数都已经比这个数多了，而且这才仅仅是他在联盟里的第七年。

[–][MIA] Eddie Jonesusgojoox 191 指標 11小時前

In 1985 there were ~2.8 3 point attempts per game. Per team.

In 2018 there were 29 3 point attempts per game.

That"s the real inflation.

热火球迷：在1985年，每场比赛每支球队场均出手2.8次三分。

在2018年，每场比赛每支球队场均出手29次三分。

这才是真正那个通货膨胀系数。

[–]76ersWinesburgOhio 130 指標 12小時前*

Larry Bird never saw a 3-pt line before being a rookie in the NBA, and he shot .406 from deep that year (58-for-143) while the league was total garbage at them, plus was the winner of the 1st three 3-pt contests (the only ones he participated in before his massive 1989 injury, after which he lost 1).

76人球迷：要知道伯德在他进入NBA之前都从来没有见过三分线，但是他在新秀赛季投出了40.6%的三分命中率（143投58中），那个时候整个联盟投三分都投得都像辣鸡一样，而且伯德还是首位三届蝉联三分挑战赛冠军的球员（这三届都是他在1989年大伤之前参加的，伤病之后他输掉了一届）。

Put him in the modern era, and he"d be only slightly behind Curry with his totals. I"ll point out that Bird has as many seasons top-10 in the league in 3% as Curry (7) which is crazy considering he was a big man, his career was short by modern standards, and Curry was raised by a top-notch 3-pt shooter.

如果把伯德放在当今的联盟，他的三分球命中总数可能只会落后库里一点点。我要特别指出来伯德有多个赛季三分命中率排在联盟前十，跟库里基本差不多次数（7次），但是这个数据很疯狂，因为他是大个子，而且有着在现代标准下略显短暂的职业生涯，还有，你要知道库里可是被一位顶级三分射手养大的呀。

EDIT: Curry is now 30 and has not been top-10 3% the last two seasons, so although it"s likely he"ll end up with more than 7 top-10 3% finishes in his career, it is by no means a foregone conclusion.

编辑：库里现在30岁，而且过去两个赛季也没有达到联盟前十的三分命中率，所以虽然很有可能库里生涯会有7次以上的赛季联盟前十三分命中率，但这也不是板上钉钉的。

EDIT 2: Ray Allen was top-10 4x. Reggie Miller was top-10 5x. Klay Thompson was top-10 5x. Steve Kerr was top-10 6x. Kyle Korver was top-10 8x.

编辑2：雷-阿伦4次，雷吉-米勒5次，克莱-汤普森5次，史蒂夫-科尔6次，凯尔-科沃尔8次。

[–]Celticscatpooptv 151 指標 12小時前

Larry Bird would have been amazing in this era of 3-point shooting.

凯尔特人球迷：伯德要是在现在这个三分球时代打球的话绝对会牛B的不行。

[–][SAS] Boris Diawfquizon 89 指標 11小時前

Prime Dirk shooting + better passer + mean streak

马刺球迷：就相当于巅峰诺维斯基的投射加上更好的传球和好斗的个性。

[–][POR] C.J. McCollumSvenSven07 55 指標 12小時前

This, Larry as a stretch 4 would be awesome. Although it means no Bird / Magic rivalry :(

开拓者球迷：没错。如果伯德穿越到今天，那他作为空间型四号位会很牛逼的。不过这样就意味着没有了经典的魔鸟对决了。

[–]RaptorsZeppelanoid 69 指標 11小時前

Using Larry Legend as a stretch 4 would be a massive waste of his talent. You want to run your offense through Larry, given his passing ability.

猛龙球迷：你把大鸟作为空间型四号位来用简直就是暴殄天物。你肯定是要围绕伯德来运转你的进攻啊，充分利用他的传球能力。

[–]reaganbill 195 指標 13小時前*

Comparing stats across generations is useless.

For example, if Stephen Curry was born when Larry Bird was born, he wouldn’t have grown up shooting as many threes, his coaches wouldn’t have allowed him to shoot so many threes, he wouldn’t of been drafted number 7, and he might not have been a starter until year 3 or 4 (like Steve Nash).

跨越年代来比较数据毫无意义。

举个例子吧，如果库里和伯德出生在同一个时代，库里的成长路上就不会投这么多三分，他的教练们也不会允许他投这么多三分，他也不会在第七顺位被选到，而且有可能直到他职业生涯第三或者第四年才能打上首发（就像史蒂夫-纳什一样）。

On the other hand, if Larry Bird was born when Curry was born, he would’ve had Curry to look up to growing up, he would’ve had Steve Nash to look up to growing up, he would’ve been able to look up to Dirk...therefore, Bird would’ve been shooting a crap load more threes growing up, practicing more half-court shots, and there is no telling how good that Larry Bird would have become.

另一方面，如果伯德出生在库里的时代，他的成长过程中可能会以库里、纳什或者司机作为学习榜样。所以说，伯德从小到大肯定会投一大堆三分，练习更多的半场投篮，这样子的话，你都没法预测伯德到底会成长到什么优秀程度。

Same thing with LeBron and Jordan. If you flip their time periods, there’s no telling what would’ve happened. They might’ve made LeBron play power forward.

Who knows who Kobe would’ve emulated without MJ to look up to.

詹姆斯和乔丹也是同理。如果你把他们的时代互换，没人知道他们会成长成什么样子。他们可能会把詹姆斯抓去打大前锋呢。

而且如果没有乔丹，谁知道科比会通过模仿谁而成长。

[–]RaptorsFreshprince45 59 指標 12小時前

But I think the counter-argument is that basketball gets better over time because of historical developments in training, strategy, technique, equpiment, among other things. Relative to their era, Larry might have stood out, but in absolute terms Steph is a much better shooter. Larry might have been a better shooter in 2018, but we"ll never know, so I feel that its appropriate to call Steph the best shooter ever. And in 20 years if we have a better shooter than Steph, we should accept that as well.

猛龙球迷：不过我认为最好的反驳就是：随着时间的前进，篮球是在朝更好的方向发展。因为训练、战术、技术和设备等因素都在发展。相对于当时那个年代，伯德可能是在投射方面大放异彩，但是如果我们实打实的比较绝对值，库里肯定是更加优秀的投手。伯德可能放到2018年会是更优秀的投手，但是我们无从得知，所以我觉得把库里称为史上最佳投手毫无毛病。同样的，如果在之后的20年里，我们有一位比库里更加优秀的投手，那我们也应该去欣然接受。